Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 997 times:
Compared to the US, there are very few 757's in europe and the middle east. Only BA, Iberia are the only european majors to have a sizeable 757 fleet, with a few charters operating them aswell (Air 2000+Britannia come to mind) Can't think of any ME 757 operators.
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12426 posts, RR: 40 Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 969 times:
Condor, LTU, BA, Iberia, Air 2000, Britannia, JMC, Finnair, Air anatolia, DHL, Atlas International, Transavia, Dutchbird, Monarch, Icelandair, My Travel and Belair all use 757's and are located in Europe (probably more).
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3322 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 906 times:
El Al also is a 757 operator.
Air Belgium used to have one.
Keep is mind that BA was the first non-US airline to introduce the 757 and is the largest non-US operator of the type.
In Russia there is the Tupolev 204, that's the Russian 757.
Ben Soriano
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Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 8, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 908 times:
In Europe, the 757 is seen by most airlines as a nice aircraft for mediumrange charters. Larger than a 737 so it can carry more passengers, smaller than a 767 so it can land at smaller airfields (and use less fuel).
Range isn't so much a factor as distances are shorter.
Regular lines use 737s to gain higher frequency, charters use 757s packed full of people happy to be pushed in like sardines in a can to get as many people as possible transported in one flight and still be able to land and take off on the smaller airports at holiday islands.
TR From UK - England, joined May 2001, 952 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 908 times:
I guess the reason is that Airbus simply got the most of the 180-220 seat aircrafts needed in Europe. Had the A321 not been made Air France, Lufthansa, SABENA (prior the shut down), Swissair (now Swiss) and others like SAS - and now BA replacing 757s with A321s - would have been very possible B757 customers with the need for many aircraft. Guess the US-market is mostly Boeing and Europe is at the moment Airbus. So simple is that.
ContinentalFan From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 355 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 817 times:
In Europe, A321s make more sense, since you don't need the range of the 757. In the US, the 757 is useful because it can do long transcons and short flights, I don't think there is a need for that capability as much in Europe (for scheduled service, not charters). Plus, I think that the A321 is more slotted between the 738/A320 and the 757 in terms of size/capabilities.
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2268 posts, RR: 31 Reply 14, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 802 times:
Max, Just not them, remember Israir(or whatever..), Sout Atlantic airways also do.
It's actually Arkia which is operating some B757-200s/-300s. South Atlantic Airways was liquidated last year after the Spanish authorithies found out, the airline was used for money laundering.
Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
AFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 28 Reply 18, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 714 times:
Hello Arsenal@LHR,
Because so far no French operator required the type to be certified by the Direction générale de l'aviation civile (DGAC). The same happened with the 747SP; Corsair had to keep its airplane under Luxemburgish registration before it was certified (and the airplane was later re-registered as F-GTOM).
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Reply 19, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 718 times:
Just a quick roundup of European 757s;
Condor - 25
Britannia - 19
Iberia - 18
British Airways - 17
JMC Airlines - 17
Air 2000 - 14
DHL - 14
Icelandair - 11
Monarch - 8
LTU - 7
MyTravel - 7
Finnair - 5
Transavia - 4
Atlas International - 3
DutchBird - 3
LTE - 3
Air Anatolia - 2
Air Holland - 2
Air Scandic - 2
Belair - 2
Greenlandair - 1
Martinair - 1
Privatair - 1
Star Air - 1
I make that a total of 189.
The above fleets include aircraft leased in for the summer, and exclude stored aircraft.
As for the A321/B757, while they do compete, It appears in several cases airlines have a case for operating both types in their fleets for different roles. In Europe in particular this involves;
- Air 2000
- British Airways
- Finnair
- Iberia
- Monarch
- MyTravel
QatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 676 times:
In the Arabian Gulf, SNAS (a Saudi [?] company operating flights for DHL) has two 757F leased from DHL and in DHL livery but with SNAS titles. Gulf Air also used to have a 757F which IIRC they leased from DHL also and they operated to Belgium on DHL's behalf.
Duncan From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 131 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 615 times:
Royal Nepal Airlines also operate 2 757's and have the distinction of operating the ONLY 757-200C (Convertable). This is a 757 with a MDC (Main Deck Cargo) door and a full set of windows along the window belt, including windows in the MDC door. This was a configuration built by Boeing in production with full production drawings and type certification. The thought was that it would be an alternate configuration to offer customers and satisfy Royal Nepal's requirements. The configuration didn't take-off and now this is a unique 757. There isn't even an STC out there to convert a -200F or -200 pax to this configuration. Check it out:-----
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5020 posts, RR: 12 Reply 24, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 510 times:
Well you guys see more than me!
Auckland gets no 757's! SJ leased 1 from BY afew years ago! And Canada 3000 flew them in once weekly in 99 I think it was, can't think of anymore though.
25 Donder10: Arsenal, do you remember that Virgin had soem 747 300s on order from Singapore Airlines?In the end,they didnt take them because the 743 isnt certified
26 Arsenal@LHR: Donder Are u sure it was 747-300's? i don't recall VS negotiating 743's with SQ, or was it 744's? Anyone?
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