Airworthy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2248 times:
Actually, AA has gained market share through a very large Eagle operation at ORD... I don't know if this takes this into account or not?
Looking at those numbers, it seems as if UA has lost a large amount of market share, from ~46-47% in 1999, to 42.5%... Also, UA's market share at DEN, SFO, and LAX slipped, from 69%, 55%, and 26%...
The three largest hub operations from this data:
#1
American Airlines
DFW 15,580,262
ORD 9,207,434
STL 9,150,395
MIA 7,265,240
SJU not counted total 41,203,331
#2
Delta Air Lines
ATL 26,435,442
CVG 5,808,851
SLC 5,409,303 total 37,653,596
#3
United Airlines
ORD 13,118,050
DEN 9,975,633
SFO 7,793,533
LAX 6,368,063
IAD not counted total 37,255,279
** I'm sure if we had the #s for IAD, United would have higher numbers than DL...
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6032 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
Scott4AA,
The number of flights an airline has at a city has nothing to do whether it is designated as a hub. The term hub for a carrier is used when they have a large number of connecting passengers arriving on one flight then departing on another flight. When a passenger arrives in LAX on American what flights is he likely to connect to?
That is why you see most hubs located in an area where they can have flights from 360 degrees. ie:ORD.IAH,ATL,MSP,DTW.
0A340 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2169 times:
Yes, that's a keen obervation. Connection/Feed flights are primarily into hubs - without them a lot fewer would exist.
Is there a way to have all this data?
SESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3385 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2095 times:
That's awesome that Delta has MORE passengers from Atlanta than American & United have combined from Chicago! Delta at Atlanta in 2001 had about 650 departures compared to United at Chicago having about 430 and American having about 350. Though UA/AA had 780+ departures, why did Delta still carry more passengers having 130 less departures?
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6089 posts, RR: 25 Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2103 times:
Easy answer SESGDL, DL pumps a lot more widebodies through ATL. Look at all those widebodies DL sends to MCO,TPA,PBI,etc. DL also sends widebodies to secondary destinations like BDL.
Klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1810 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2045 times:
Excellent thread this is! On a sidenote, at times in this forum people assert that DL's and AA's JFK "hubs" are almost comparable to CO's EWR hub. The obvious question therefore is, how come those hubs are not listed above?
To piggyback on what another person said, DL's ATL is impressive!
ORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1370 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2040 times:
I'm glad most people here seem to enjoy these stats. They are from a source called Aviation Daily. I believe this is available both via email and hard copy, but at a fairly high subscription price. I am not a subscriber, but I do have access to articles via a password-protected database. Unfortunately I cannot give out the password.
Aviation Daily just did an analysis of Delta's DFW hub (and its decline) for those interested. Here are some numbers:
Dr.DTW From United States of America, joined May 2000, 289 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2021 times:
I have the following daily departure data for NW's operations at MSP and DTW from last summer. I was quite surprised that MSP was listed ahead of DTW. I think this data illustrates how not including the commuter operation can effect the ranking system.
I'm sure over the last year, the number of regional jets has increased, and with DTW's new terminal and runways, I'm the overall numbers will be higher as well.
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4999 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1980 times:
Very interesting data, thank you! So, if this data does not include the airline's regional partners, does any have any info as to the number of flights operated by these airlines at their partner's hubs?
Bmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1449 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (11 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1965 times:
Like everyone else says thanks for posting this. Do u have any more data like this on this subject or any other please post.
so hears the question what hub strategy works better? Delta where they have one Mega hub Atlanta and just one or two others or having four or five smaller hubs like AA, UAL, Co etc
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