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BAW 777 Stuck On Runway In Antigua  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8836 times:

A British Airways Boeing 777 is stuck on a runway with 140 pax in Antigua.

The plane from LGW landed on a runway which was just resurfaced and the tarmac has not set properly. It's wheels have sank into the tarmac.

The captain has tried to move the plane using the engine power but failed and ordered an evacuation.

An airport spokesman said that it was unfortunate the BA 777 was the biggest thing to arrive  Confused

More information at the BBC NEWS Online website


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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8745 times:

Sounds like a great airport !!

User currently offlineVh-daq From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2001, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8741 times:

that's a little strange that they didn't know it would happen and let the aircraft land, or rather stupid more like it, the airport should be forced to pay for the damages to the 777

HOOroo
DAQ


User currently offlineAndreas777 From Spain, joined Jan 2001, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8700 times:

I was just reading the article on BBC's website...

I'm just wondering how something like this is possible..??
I suppose that when the resurfacing was underway, the runway/airport was closed....well, wouldn't it be standard procedure to check the runway before reopening??

Furthermore, in such a case, who would be financially liable? Indeed, the passengers need to be put up in hotels, the aircraft is stuck so cannot generate any revenue for BA, and the aircraft needs to be moved....
Would be BA, the airport, both, or insurance companies??

Anyways, I hope they can get the airplane un-stuck quickly...
However, I just re-read the article...and it said that the airport was now closed. I suppose this means that there is only one runway. Well if they say there is nothing big enough on the island to pull the 777, how are they going to get anything in, if the only runway is blocked?

TNX for any info...

Andreas


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8695 times:

 Laugh out loudROTLMAO Laugh out loud

Don't worry about them moving it, where there is a will there will be a way.

I am sure that there is somebody on that island with a D-8 bulldozer or something.



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User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8629 times:

I must confess that this is quite possibly the most amusing incident I've heard of in a while.

"The Boeing 777 was due to carry on to the neighbouring island of St Lucia and was leaving the runway when its wheels sank into the tarmac.

The captain tried to use the power of the engines to move it but when it became obvious it was going nowhere, he ordered its evacuation."


This is the most absurd case of bad planning I've heard of in a while!



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User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8594 times:

"The delights of St.Lucia will have to wait"

Looks like it.....


User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8561 times:

According to the flight info in Amadeus, the plane had left the gate at ANU for its continuing flight to St Lucia. Can anyone confirm this?

User currently offlineRickB From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8553 times:

I love the comment from the airport - 'It's not our problem' - very helpful.

What kind of idiots resurface a runway and then let something as big as a 777 land before its set ???


User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8525 times:

I haven't understood if the 777 was stuck while landing or while taking off for another island.

I've understood that it landed and it was leaving the runway to go on the taxiway. There it was stuck. While going from the runway to the taxiway.

Am I correct?


User currently offlineD-aqui From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8511 times:

I have just read the story on BBC as well. Still some questions remain, why an airport can be re-opened with a tarmac that has not settled to take the wheel weight it has been designed for.

Back in 1994 I was flying to St. Lucia via Antigua in a BA 747-236, so the old runway surface was surely strong enough to take planes with even bigger landing weights than that of a 777.

By the way: when flying back from St. Lucia's Vigie airport via Barbados to LGW in 1994 the BA 747 had to backtrack on the runway and make a 180-degree turn at the western end of the runway. On this occasion - according to the subsequent announcement of the flight deck crew - the plane had taxied through the grass or hard shoulder with some part of its main landing gear. I think it was only owing to the aridity of the soil and the barely laden kite that we were still able to proceed to Barbados after a 20 minute outside inspection of the aircraft.

But the weather is always nice in the Caribbean.

d-aqui


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8477 times:

LOL! How Bizzare! Well pretty stupid that a thing like this could happen I think!

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8473 times:

First the fire in DEN, then the first ever withdrawal from service, now this. It seems all the bad things happen to BA's 777 fleet.


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User currently offlineBCal DC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 722 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8467 times:

I feel for the tourists stranded in Antigua.... must be awful for them.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Well it isn't spending a night in the Weatherd Inn in Cold Bay, Alaska but I am sure those passengers have access to a bar  Smokin cool.


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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8403 times:

I experienced something similar with Cathay pacific before. after landing the a330 tried to exit runway almost at the end of the runway which is normally only used by planes smaller than B737 but when the turn is made the right main landing was stuck in the mud (after a rainy day). so the pilot applied thrust but still wouldnt move. so he set thrust to idle and out of a sudden pushed the throttle to like half way through (i was in the cockpit) then only the plane got off the mud.

a week later i was on a MH B737 and went on that taxiway and noticed the marks was still there. believe it or not. 5 months later it was still there.


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8367 times:

Why was this rwy active ?

User currently offlineBCal DC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 722 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8343 times:

Antigua only has the one runway, so I guess without the luxury of being able to switch to another one, they resurfaced when they thought was the best time. Unfortunately it was just before a big fat 777 decided to wedge itself into the runway....
Think it was probably a crap decision as to the timing of the resurfacing.


User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8334 times:


Hilarious?! Not for the stranded pax.



User currently offlineLeej From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8304 times:

There are some pretty tight turns needed for the big boys to get to and from the apron - I remember that a while back in a Caledonian DC10 - to the end and back track a little way.
D-aqui - you sure that was Vigie you flew in/out of - I thought it was always Hewanorra for the jets.
Hey, another day stuck in Antigua - I wouldn't mind!


User currently offlineD-aqui From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8211 times:

@Leej

Yes, you are correct, of course it was not Vigie but Hewanorra. I was a little distracted...

Vigie is only for the intra-Caribbean flights and usually only handles planes up to Dash-8 or HS 748 size.

Sorry.

d-aqui


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5090 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8140 times:

Why didn't they just close the airport or the runway if the runway hasn't set properly? I think that the airport should be held responsible for this incident.


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User currently offlineAirchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8120 times:

Antigua's only runway has no parallel taxiway and the BA 777 sank into soft tarmac in the turning circle at the end whilst preparing to line up for a flight to St Lucia. It sank further in as the crew tried to power it out. Unfortunately as all a/c park remote at ANU the airport does not possess a tug! The closure of the airport also stranded a BWIA L1011 and VS 744. According to the BBC, the 777 has now been released using 'a truck borrowed from an American air base.'


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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1916 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8119 times:

Yeah, still some info left out, but according to the BBC from the link provided above, the plane has been pulled out with the aid of some type of truck. No obvious damage to the undercarriage, though I can see how that would be good for the ladning gear.

George



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User currently offlineHkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8111 times:

Why didn't they do the procedure in accordance with the schedule of the flights, so that no aircraft would be departing or arriving during the time period of the resurfacing? If the schedule didn't allow for enough time for the material to be set, then they should've closed the airport. This is kind of amusing (not for the passengers though, no way!), because if you picture the BA 777 just laying there idle, unable to move because its gear is stuck to the tarmac, it looks so funny!!

Hkg82.


25 SPRINGBOK : I heard the US Military came to the rescue and towed the 777 with an Army truck out of the "Soft tarmac" and to safety, that's what the BBC are saying
26 MightyFalcon : Weird incident indeed..! A simple question comes to my mind: Eventhough the aircraft is not, the runway is definitely damaged. How are they going to g
27 J-bird : Actually, I was flying out of Nagoya, Japan (NGO) about five years ago, on a hot (45 degrees) summer day in August and the same thing happened. I was
28 Post contains images BA777 : Hi Guys, I have some useful info, 1) My nickname 2) I've been to ANU on a BA777: Yes, ANU only has one runway and a/c have to backtrack using the turn
29 Singapore_Air : BA777: Thanks for the pics. Didn't seem much of an "evacuation" to me!
30 Hkg82 : Cool, thanks for posting the picture BA777. Yeah, I wouldn't think everyone panicked, as it looked like everything was done in a calm, orderly manner.
31 Inbound : funny, nobody mentioned Allen Stanford. texas billionaire. owns Caribbean Star Airlines, half of Antigua, and also owns the Airport too. I'm anxious t
32 Post contains images Arsenal@LHR : The pax must have been pissed off a bit, but a funny saga for us. The 777 must have been weighing at least 200 tonnes for the transatlantic crossing,
33 Chepos : Thanks for the picture, what a terrible inconvenience for the passengers. Chepos
34 Al319 : Whoa I live on the hill overlooking Runway 7L..to bad Im away at college and cant be home to see this :-( hopefully my dad took some shots
35 Capt.Picard : Correct me if I am wrong, but that photo is simply one of a BA a/c on the parking ramp at ANU-i.e. nothing to do with today's event....as you can see
36 Post contains images Al319 : It was stuck there for around 8hrs and on 7L while turning to rotate (Unbelievable right in front of my house and Im not there to see that) You can re
37 Post contains images Redngold : Quickrete turns into quicksand? Argh. Someone help, I'm a widebody and I can't take off! redngold
38 Post contains images BA777 : Holy f**k, Yes those pics were taken in 2001 and it was the exact same aircraft as i was on LGW-ANU BA777
39 Capt.Picard : Some a/c were ok it would seem: "It also caused the Virgin Airways service to London with 418 passengers on board, to be delayed. However, smaller air
40 Trintocan : This is totally hilarious if it were not so shocking - not to mention the inconvenience for those passengers who were going on to UVF and ultimately t
41 Post contains images BA777 : Guys, Confirmation: BA2157 To St. Georges, Grenada G-VIIP 777 29/05/2002 11:22 Heres a shot of her cockpit, while i was on her in Feb last year :P BA7
42 Post contains links Capt.Picard : Video: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/38046000/rm/_38046494_plane00_willcox_vi.ram
43 F.pier : Those pictures are really kool. Is now free that 772???
44 Post contains images VapourTrails : Great video link! Another day in paradise.. It is a strange thing to happen, I have never heard of it before!
45 Post contains images L-188 : Where is Joe Patroni when you need him He knows how to get a Boeing unstuck!
46 SailorOrion : LOL! I was just thinking the same. Does anyone else feel reminded of 'airport'? as 5300 feet of the 8900 foot runway remained available I wonder when
47 Post contains images BA777 : Yeah, it is paradise BA777
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