Andreas777 From Spain, joined Jan 2001, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9189 times:
I was just reading the article on BBC's website...
I'm just wondering how something like this is possible..??
I suppose that when the resurfacing was underway, the runway/airport was closed....well, wouldn't it be standard procedure to check the runway before reopening??
Furthermore, in such a case, who would be financially liable? Indeed, the passengers need to be put up in hotels, the aircraft is stuck so cannot generate any revenue for BA, and the aircraft needs to be moved....
Would be BA, the airport, both, or insurance companies??
Anyways, I hope they can get the airplane un-stuck quickly...
However, I just re-read the article...and it said that the airport was now closed. I suppose this means that there is only one runway. Well if they say there is nothing big enough on the island to pull the 777, how are they going to get anything in, if the only runway is blocked?
747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2806 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9118 times:
I must confess that this is quite possibly the most amusing incident I've heard of in a while.
"The Boeing 777 was due to carry on to the neighbouring island of St Lucia and was leaving the runway when its wheels sank into the tarmac.
The captain tried to use the power of the engines to move it but when it became obvious it was going nowhere, he ordered its evacuation."
This is the most absurd case of bad planning I've heard of in a while!
D-aqui From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 205 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9000 times:
I have just read the story on BBC as well. Still some questions remain, why an airport can be re-opened with a tarmac that has not settled to take the wheel weight it has been designed for.
Back in 1994 I was flying to St. Lucia via Antigua in a BA 747-236, so the old runway surface was surely strong enough to take planes with even bigger landing weights than that of a 777.
By the way: when flying back from St. Lucia's Vigie airport via Barbados to LGW in 1994 the BA 747 had to backtrack on the runway and make a 180-degree turn at the western end of the runway. On this occasion - according to the subsequent announcement of the flight deck crew - the plane had taxied through the grass or hard shoulder with some part of its main landing gear. I think it was only owing to the aridity of the soil and the barely laden kite that we were still able to proceed to Barbados after a 20 minute outside inspection of the aircraft.
Airbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8892 times:
I experienced something similar with Cathay pacific before. after landing the a330 tried to exit runway almost at the end of the runway which is normally only used by planes smaller than B737 but when the turn is made the right main landing was stuck in the mud (after a rainy day). so the pilot applied thrust but still wouldnt move. so he set thrust to idle and out of a sudden pushed the throttle to like half way through (i was in the cockpit) then only the plane got off the mud.
a week later i was on a MH B737 and went on that taxiway and noticed the marks was still there. believe it or not. 5 months later it was still there.
BCal DC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 724 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8832 times:
Antigua only has the one runway, so I guess without the luxury of being able to switch to another one, they resurfaced when they thought was the best time. Unfortunately it was just before a big fat 777 decided to wedge itself into the runway....
Think it was probably a crap decision as to the timing of the resurfacing.
Leej From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8793 times:
There are some pretty tight turns needed for the big boys to get to and from the apron - I remember that a while back in a Caledonian DC10 - to the end and back track a little way.
D-aqui - you sure that was Vigie you flew in/out of - I thought it was always Hewanorra for the jets.
Hey, another day stuck in Antigua - I wouldn't mind!
Airchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8609 times:
Antigua's only runway has no parallel taxiway and the BA 777 sank into soft tarmac in the turning circle at the end whilst preparing to line up for a flight to St Lucia. It sank further in as the crew tried to power it out. Unfortunately as all a/c park remote at ANU the airport does not possess a tug! The closure of the airport also stranded a BWIA L1011 and VS 744. According to the BBC, the 777 has now been released using 'a truck borrowed from an American air base.'
BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1956 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8608 times:
Yeah, still some info left out, but according to the BBC from the link provided above, the plane has been pulled out with the aid of some type of truck. No obvious damage to the undercarriage, though I can see how that would be good for the ladning gear.
Hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8600 times:
Why didn't they do the procedure in accordance with the schedule of the flights, so that no aircraft would be departing or arriving during the time period of the resurfacing? If the schedule didn't allow for enough time for the material to be set, then they should've closed the airport. This is kind of amusing (not for the passengers though, no way!), because if you picture the BA 777 just laying there idle, unable to move because its gear is stuck to the tarmac, it looks so funny!!
: I heard the US Military came to the rescue and towed the 777 with an Army truck out of the "Soft tarmac" and to safety, that's what the BBC are saying
: Weird incident indeed..! A simple question comes to my mind: Eventhough the aircraft is not, the runway is definitely damaged. How are they going to g
: Actually, I was flying out of Nagoya, Japan (NGO) about five years ago, on a hot (45 degrees) summer day in August and the same thing happened. I was
: Hi Guys, I have some useful info, 1) My nickname 2) I've been to ANU on a BA777: Yes, ANU only has one runway and a/c have to backtrack using the turn
: BA777: Thanks for the pics. Didn't seem much of an "evacuation" to me!
: Cool, thanks for posting the picture BA777. Yeah, I wouldn't think everyone panicked, as it looked like everything was done in a calm, orderly manner.
: funny, nobody mentioned Allen Stanford. texas billionaire. owns Caribbean Star Airlines, half of Antigua, and also owns the Airport too. I'm anxious t
: The pax must have been pissed off a bit, but a funny saga for us. The 777 must have been weighing at least 200 tonnes for the transatlantic crossing,
: Thanks for the picture, what a terrible inconvenience for the passengers. Chepos
: Whoa I live on the hill overlooking Runway 7L..to bad Im away at college and cant be home to see this :-( hopefully my dad took some shots
: Correct me if I am wrong, but that photo is simply one of a BA a/c on the parking ramp at ANU-i.e. nothing to do with today's event....as you can see
: It was stuck there for around 8hrs and on 7L while turning to rotate (Unbelievable right in front of my house and Im not there to see that) You can re
: Quickrete turns into quicksand? Argh. Someone help, I'm a widebody and I can't take off! redngold
: Holy f**k, Yes those pics were taken in 2001 and it was the exact same aircraft as i was on LGW-ANU BA777
: Some a/c were ok it would seem: "It also caused the Virgin Airways service to London with 418 passengers on board, to be delayed. However, smaller air
: This is totally hilarious if it were not so shocking - not to mention the inconvenience for those passengers who were going on to UVF and ultimately t
: Guys, Confirmation: BA2157 To St. Georges, Grenada G-VIIP 777 29/05/2002 11:22 Heres a shot of her cockpit, while i was on her in Feb last year :P BA7