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Does NW Have Other Oddball Flights Like IAD-AMS?  
User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

Does NW have other oddball flights like IAD-AMS?
They don't have a hub at IAD to feed pax on the flight.
However, the flight seem to operate pretty full most of the
time.

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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1796 times:
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There's also JFK-AMS and MIA/AMS and there used to be a BOS-AMS.

Arsenal@LHR




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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

NW actually has the most non-hub-gateway international operations by a US carrier.

AMS is served nonstop from DTW, MSP, SEA, IAD, BOS, EWR, JFK, MIA
NRT is served nonstop from DTW, MSP, SEA, LAX, SFO, JFK, HNL, GUM


User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

NW still operates BOS-AMS. Also they have EWR-AMS.

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

They don't have a hub at IAD to feed pax on the flight.

These flights are fed well by KLM at Amsterdam.


User currently offlineEmile From Netherlands, joined Nov 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

yes but amsterdam is a gateway for nwa. think about klm

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3889 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

Actually, AMS is a HUB for NW. This isn't an oddball situation... those are gateways that serve the European hub.




AZJ


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

KLM and NWA are a REAL alliance.

I think it doesn't matter if the tail is blue or red.

They share all cost & benefits on all Atlantic flights. They just take out the most practical options ; sometimes KLM (MEM, LA, SFO, IAH, etc.) sometimes NWA (BOS, DTW, etc.), sometimes both (MSP) ...





User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1707 times:
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Hmm...i thought BOS-AMS was gone, when was it re-instated?

And EWR-AMS? That one was a suprise.

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

i thought BOS-AMS was gone, when was it re-instated?

AFAIK, BOS-AMS was never discontinued. They kept the BOS and IAD services when they cut the PHL-AMS service in the mid-90s.


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32618 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

EWR-AMS is new. They just took over the route from KLM. In exchange, KLM will be taking over MIA-AMS in September.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Actually, EWR-AMS used to be operated by NWA as the first leg of the BOM flight when they first started India service in 1997. The flights ran EWR-AMS-BOM and IAD-AMS-DEL. When they switched the BOM service to DTW, the EWR-AMS route was taken over by KLM, and now returned to NWA for this summer.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Bobcat.
What is the difference between IAD-AMS on NW and
1. IAD-LON on BA
2. MIA-CDG on AF
3. BOS-FRA on LH

There is no difference as each of those city pairs has a hub as the destination.


User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

okay, I see it now... AMS is the hub in this scenario...


I guess I just forgot to look at it from another perspective.  Smile


User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

AMS-MIA being taken over by KLM in September??? Anyone have more info on this. What aircraft, when is it suppose to start?

Thanx,

SR 103  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

And don't forget NW's huge Tokyo hub as mentioned above. I don't think there's an other airline operating hubs on three continents. Or am I wrong?


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

Daily flight to be operated by KLM's MD-11s will start September 16.


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

BOS-AMS is a remnant of the days when BOS was a transatlantic hub for NW, with flights to:

LGW
SNN
FRA
CPH
PIK
other?



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

I'm on that flight on June 3. Odd ball? No way. Its the most convenient way to get to Europe and beyond, the uncomfortable DC-10 notwithstanding.

User currently offlineEmile From Netherlands, joined Nov 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

don,t leave out kenia nairoboi (kenya airlines hub) AFRICA

User currently offlinePA006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Both AMS and NRT are NW hubs.

User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

EWR-AMS by Northwest... I was wondering why I saw a NW DC10-30 the last time I was at EWR (5/24)!

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7528 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

The only "odd-ball" route that comes to mind is LAS-LAX. However, NW dropped this route. They only flew it once a day on an A320, I believe is was NW 1 & NW 2

NRT & AMS are NW hubs


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

In addition to the LAX-LAS extention of NW1/2, NW also ran an A320 on LAX-SAN for a while as an extension of the MEM-LAX flight.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32618 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

NW also flew TPA-MBJ up until a few months ago when it was transfered to MEM.


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25 B747-437B : I thought the TPA-MBJ service was weekends only?
26 GARUDAROD : NW58/57 MIA/AMS/MIA will switch to KL628/627 on Sept 16th. As mentioned above, the flight will operate by KL MD-11. This is good for this route as th
27 NWA Man : NW 1 LAS-LAX and the opposite flight were not oddball in any way...they were a logical extension of NW's flight 1 and 2 to and from NRT. The LAS-LAX-L
28 PW100 : Indeed, as mentioned AMS is an hub for NW: Last summer NW flew no less than 13 daily departures from AMS. All revenue of all NW and KL AMS-USA flights
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