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Air Switzerland A340  
User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10679 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

When will they start?

http://justplanes.net/images/welcome850.jpg

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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2383 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

They say the first possible start date would be September 15. However, I don't think they'll manage it to start services by this date. Maybe in October or November.


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User currently offlineSR3496 From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

This pic is quite old...take a look at their homepage: http://www.air-switzerland.net

User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2383 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Swisswings (currently in receivership) will be taken over by Air Switzerland. The airline will resume operations in mid-July under the Air Switzerland europe brand. It will most probably resume Swisswings' profitable routes from Berne to Amsterdam and Munich. More details to follow tommorow at a press conference in Berne. It will be possible to download more information on these plans from tomorrow afternoon on their website.


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User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Not such a fan of the color scheme at the moment. Personal opinion.

-Chris



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

My first thought on the logo is that it reminds me the flag of Liechtenstein  Smile




Gdabski


User currently offlineAOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1302 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Nooooo....this livery is so poor ! Who designed this livery ? this is so ugly ! Even my little brother could design a better color scheme...

User currently offlineAFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Hello,

Quote from the first press release of Air Switzerland:


Starting September 2002, air Switzerland - which is completely privately financed - will offer "scheduled charter" services as an attractively-priced alternative for long-haul flights from Unique Airport Zurich. It is planned to provide scheduled charter services in three classes to selected holiday and business destinations such as Las Vegas, Cape Town, Bangkok, Singapore, Hong Kong and Dubai. With these offerings air Switzerland sees its role as an ideal complement to Swiss, and as contributing to the attractiveness of air travel to and from Switzerland.

In the start-up phase, air Switzerland will fly two A340-300 machines of the airbus family. The two aircraft are currently in Hamburg but will be brought to Zurich-Kloten at least six weeks before flight operations begin. They each have 10 first class, 30 business class and 225 economy class seats. The tail fin of the aircraft bears the Swiss cross, the colours of Liechtenstein and a crown. The crown symbolizes a service orientation in which the customer is king, explains Manfred Rutz, Vice President Sales & Marketing.

air Switzerland already has 12 employees and has moved into its headquarters in Glattbrugg. In preparation for flight operations it is now recruiting 17 commanders, 32 first officers and 175 flight attendants.



Best regards,
Alain Mengus
Air Transport Business


User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Thx Alain. Anyway with the scheme more Liechtenstein-ish than Swiss the name of the airline seems a bit strange...

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2001 times:

Well, I don't think that with an Air Liechtenstein you will have bigger sucess than with Air Switzerland (if).
There have already been different discussions regarding this topic...

cheers  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

Will these be the two ex-SQ A340s stored in Hamburg or somewhere in Europe?

User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2383 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Yes it will be the two A340-300s stored in Hamburg.


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User currently offlineLionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Will they take over the Do328 from Swisswings for the planed flights from Berne to Munich and Amsterdam?

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Are these the ex Singapore A340s that Boeing recieved from them?

Also what is "Unique Airport Zurich" I see that mentioned every so often.

SR3496,

The pic of the A340 on the Air-Switzerland.net website is exactly the same as the one on JP's. If this is "old" then what is the new one?

Weird there would be any connection to Lichtenstein if the airline doesn't even serve the country. Doesn't make much business sense if you ask me.

TNNH


User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Unique is the official name of Zuirch its actualy: Zurich Kloten international airport. But the new name is Unique Airport, or Unique Zurich airport. The website is

also: there is no possible way to serve Liechtenstein as there is no airport in the country.  Smile The CEO is from there.


User currently offlineLionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Isn't Mario Ritter from Liechtenstein? Why they don't serve St.Gallen-Altenrhein? Thats the nearest airport from Vaduz. OK, no chance with an A340 but why not some smaller planes?

User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2383 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Altenrhein is only served by the Austrian Airlines group subsidiaries Rheintalflug and Tyrolean Airways. The only scheduled route is Altenrhein-Vienna as Altenrhein is very close to the Austrian state of Vorarlberg. There are also some charter flights operated by Rheintalflug with its ERJ-145s to Olbia and Palma de Mallorca and with Intersky, the CEO of this airline the wife of the CEO of Rheintalflug, to Elba Island.

It is nearly impossible to add more flights out of Altenrhein as even Rheintalflug is only allowed to operate six daily flights out of this airport. It would also not make sense to start other flights out of Altenrhein.

They will most probably take over the ex-Swisswings aircraft, I heard they were renegotiating leasing contracts with Fairchild Dornier. The Berne-Munich and Berne-Amsterdam routes were among the only profitable routes of Swisswings. So I suppose, they will resume operations on these routes. I don't know about the Geneva operations or possible feeder services for its long-haul route out of Zurich.

Let's wait and see.



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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

Well one things for sure, its 1000 times better then the SWISS scheme !!

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

It wouldn't make any sense to run two airlines, one at BRN/GVA and another at ZRH, they would have to operate the Do328 at ZRH to feed the A340 flights, but since they want to go for 50% incomming it won't be that hard I think, but I wonder where they want to get the 50% incomming pax at destinations like Bangkok, Las Vegas, Singapore etc...


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User currently offlineLionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

air Switzerland will start in july with flights from BRN. They will take over 3 Do328 from Swisswings.

http://www.tages-anzeiger.ch/ta/taOnlineNewstickerArtikel?ArtId=70270&rubrikid=643


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Doesn't make sense for me to run the small planes (which could be used for feeder-flights) out of BRN to European Destinations and to run the A340 out of ZRH.
Seems as two different airlines, just imagine airlines like BA, AF, KL would operate their long-haul planes at LHR, FRA, AMS and all European feeder-flights to LGW, MUC or what ever. This seems very strange.

The airline also still failed to mention about the investors, they are from Switzerland, Germany and USA (as per Lionels article) but no names. Don't you think this is strange?
They also informed earlier that they will work together with a big Tour Operator (mostly Swiss) and also here, no names mentioned so far.



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

Zurich Airport is the official name for passenger and airlines. Unique Airport is the name of the company which runs the airport, since Zurich airport is privat and not anymore state owened.

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

BTW this scheme is one of the ugliest I have ever seen. I don't think that Air Switzerland will succeed because they don't have any major travel agency to fill there aircrafts. I am wondering from where they get their passengers. Swiss leisure market has already too many aircrafts: Swiss, Belair, Edelweiss

User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2383 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

You can even add Hapag-Lloyd which will most probably take over the charter flights on behalf of TUI Suisse in 2003 (currently operated by Swiss).


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User currently offlineFUAirliner From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

The first of the two ex-SIA Airbus A340 (D-ASIA) departed HAM for XLW last week. It will be outfitted and painted for Khalifa, so this aircraft will not be operated by Air Switzerland. However, another ex-SIA A340 (now D-ASIC) has arrived at HAM from SIN, so there is still a chance that these two aircraft will be leased by Air Switzerland.

Unfortunately, the conversation from the current SIA-interior to the proposed Air Switzerland one seems to be very expensive, so Air Switzerland is currently looking for other options than the ex-SIA A340s.


Frank



Frank Unterspann - Hamburg, Germany
25 ZRH : I am also wondering that Air Switzerland wants to offer F class as a charter airline. Even well known scheduled airlines like LH and BA are considerin
26 Swissgabe : As I said, they don't need big TOs in Switzerland since around 50% should be incom Pax, means departing outside ZRH, so you need TOs at ZRH and at all
27 9V-SVE : So Boeing has 9 more to go...9V-SJH, 9V-SJI, 9V-SJJ, 9V-SJK, 9V-SJM, 9V-SJN, 9V-SJO, 9V-SJP, and 9V-SJQ (Last two not taken up by SQ - Could Air Switz
28 Post contains links Thomas_Jaeger : http://www.aircraft-leas.com No comment on that one ...
29 Aog : Did anybody know if Air Switzerland has already get slots, especially on the overseas destinations or is this not necessary, because they operate as a
30 Thomas_Jaeger : I saw the interview, it's also on SFinfo several times today. It was embarrassing ...
31 Gerardo : Thomas: ABSOLUTELY embarrassing! Now I really have doubts about Air Switzerland's future. I had the impression, that he is only the one to slap in the
32 Donder10 : A 21 year old CEO?Good luck to him
33 Swissgabe : Isn't he already 22 years old? Well, the TV Interview, there was no difference compared to all earlier Interviews mostly in Swiss Travel Trade magazin
34 Swissgabe : http://www.aircraft-leas.com, very UNPROFFESIONAL! What do they want to do, to lease their A340 if they don't have enough pax?
35 Post contains images Thomas_Jaeger : Hi Gabriel, What do they want to do, to lease their A340 if they don't have enough pax? Mario Ritter told me on the phone aircraft-leas (nice name) wo
36 Post contains images Swissgabe : I think an air broker could operate planes as long as they also sell seats by them self. I wonder which planes they want to use, lets say you have a c
37 Post contains images Thomas_Jaeger : @Swissgabe: I think you misunderstood something. He says he is already running this air broker business. He's the owner of this funny Mario Ritter Gro
38 Post contains images Swissgabe : Well, I know about this Mario Ritter Group, there have been reports on this around 3-4 month ago. What I'm asking is about the organisation for groups
39 Thomas_Jaeger : Well, an air broker buys a certain number of flying hours from an airline and sells this "hours" to its customers. He's claiming to do this already. M
40 Swissgabe : In one of the first "rumors" in the Swiss Magazine "Travel Inside" there was indicated that they have offices (branchs) in most of the destinations wh
41 Thomas_Jaeger : Mario Ritter said there wouldn't be any other MRG offices than in Eschen. Maybe there could be some local partners around there but I doubt those part
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