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Post-Sept.11 Discrimination Suits Hit 4 Airlines  
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

"WASHINGTON, June 4 (Reuters) - Civil rights groups filed lawsuits against four major airlines on Tuesday, alleging discrimination against five men who were removed from flights after the Sept. 11 attacks because they looked Middle Eastern.
The American Civil Liberties Union and the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee named United Airlines(NYSE:UAL - News), American Airlines(NYSE:AMR - News), Continental Airlines(NYSE:CAL - News) and Northwest Airlines(NasdaqNM:NWAC - News) in the suits filed in federal court in Maryland, New Jersey and California."

More at: http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/020604/attack_lawsuits_2.html

Any comments are welcomed! This seems like a case just to get easy money.



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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

No Comments needed. Just look... OMG, We got kicked off because of this. LET'S SUE... GOLD DIGGERS

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

I'm sure that if it were any of you that were denied boarding...or taken off an aircraft, you'd have the same reaction. We can just hope that some meaningful legislation may result from such a suit.

Man, BR715, you are one bitter kid!


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Greg,
it says on the ticket that you can be removed from the plane without a reason.


User currently offlineSquigee From Canada, joined May 2001, 652 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

It's the same issue with the fat lady who tried to sue Air Canada because her butt wouldn't fit in only one seat. It comes down to one factor:

Aircraft are not public property, nor are they government property. The airlines have a right to allow or disallow boarding to anyone they want to. If someone is suspected of being drunk, too bad. If you can't safely occupy one seat because you spill over into two, too bad. If the airlines were concerned because you and a group of guys look very similar to ones who hijacked their aircraft and killed thousands of people, too bad.

This is life post Sept.11. If you don't like it, complain to Osama.



Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
User currently offlineExpratt From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2669 times:

They should consolidate the cases and have the trial conducted in lower Manhattan. I wonder how much they would get then: $10,000 or 10,000 volts?

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8912 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2655 times:

And remember, the captain has the final word on all matters. If they don't want anyone on the flight they're captaining, then they can kick you off for whatever reason. Is it necessarily fair? No. But is life fair? No. I hope this suit (filed by who else but the ACLU...) is thrown out of court or is defeated (which is should).

Jeff


User currently offlineFlybulldog From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2640 times:

In several of these cases, it seems like the passengers were purposely acting strange in order to get kicked off the flight.

User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2636 times:

ACLU: Airlines Discriminated Against Passengers Who Seemed Middle Eastern

"NEW YORK (AP) -- Lawsuits filed in three states Tuesday accused airlines of discriminating against passengers who looked Middle Eastern and said one man was forced off a flight after a fellow passenger complained about "those brown-skinned men.""

Heres more: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/020604/airlines_discrimination_1.html



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2624 times:

ACLU,Law Firm Sue Amer Air, Continental, Northwest, United

"NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- The American Civil Liberties Union filed five federal lawsuits accusing four airlines of forcing passengers off flights based on the prejudice of employees and passengers."

More at: http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020604/200206041440000473_1.html

This is getting out of hand. I dont mind lawsuits, but airlines DO HAVE the right to kick you off a flight for NO REASON. Check the back of your tickets next time.



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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2621 times:

I hope these people will win the court. I would deal with such airlines very harshly. So you are now saying it is good to disallow Arabs to get in planes? Come on. What if black would be refused to fly because of his skin? Then you all would moan how that or another airline is racist. I think all minorities should be treated the same.

User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2619 times:

Yes, airlines do have that right but if some airline would start kicking off blacks I believe it would be dealt very harshly.

User currently offlineClose2lax From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2615 times:

You know, Blacks didn't level the lower Manhattan. I'd rather have some people feel harassed, then thousands dead. As simple as that. I know it sounds bad, but that's how I feel.

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5347 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2615 times:

The ignorance of many in this country post-9/11 has not ceased to amaze me. So now, having dark skin qualifies one as being Middle Eastern. I cannot tell you how many of my Indian friends here in Salt Lake (the sub-continent variety not the native variety) have been discriminated against, have been made to feel unwelcome, have had racial slurs hurled at them, and have been physically assaulted as a result of their dark skin and apparent Middle Eastern origins (which, by the way, is news to both me and them). How stupid are you that you must assume that any dark-skinned person is a Middle Easterner? Even more disturbing is the news I received from one Indian friend that several of her Sikh acquaintances have decided post-9/11 to remove their Turbans, cut their hair and shave their beards all because some ignorant piece of shit might blow their head off for expressing themselves religiously.

Of particular concern is our new found belief that all Middle Easterners are terrorists/terrorists in the making until they prove otherwise. I don't care who you are, I don't care where you live or where you were during the attacks, statements such as the one above are no better than stating that all Asians look alike, that Jews are money-hungry, penny pinchers, and that African Americans are drug-dealing criminals. Whether we want to admit it or not, our treatment of Middle Easterners, be they Arab or otherwise, has been inherently racist both pre and post-9/11. While we, as a society, have attempted to break down and discredit other pervasive stereotypes we have been more than willing to assume that all Middle Eastern men are terrorists. I shudder to think where we are going with this.

I, for one, say bring on the lawsuits! Of course, we have to protect against any other attack but I refuse to allow us to once again degenerate in a racist hell hole under the guise of national security.






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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2606 times:

Oh yes Close2lax, every Arab, Indian, Kazakh, Azeri, Georgian, ect. are terrorists.

By the way, you are so naive. You think by not letting some people enter you will stop terror? Come on, neither Khomeini, neither Hussein, neither Bin Laden aren't that stupid. Do you think there are no white, Asian or black people who would do a terror act? Maybe thousands there are. Remember John "Jihad" Walker. Also, there are any poor people who would do that if money would be paid to their families.

You could ban all middle easterns from flying and terror still would have the same chance to happen. By the way, I don't believe terror via aviation will happen again at all (at least not sep 11 size). You know what? Sunking jhuge cruise liner might have the same casualties. Or destroying oil rig in Mexican gulf. Or contaminating water system. There are thousand ways. By discrimination you'll reach nothing, just more hate towards you.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2612 times:

I spent 17 hours in interrogation with DOJ personnel last month and was repeatedly told that "people like you" had caused the trouble with America. Of course, I am from India, Catholic and have been in and out of the US since 1978. If the crack anti-terrorism people can't look beyond skin color succesfully, how can you expect airline personnel to be able to?

User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2601 times:

Totally agree with OA412. It seems Amercans can't get rid of racism, which is there from times of colonization. First they massacred native Americans, later enslaved blacks and now they are against Arabs. Who will be next target? Hispanic? Asians?

User currently offlineBen88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2595 times:

You guys seem to be forgetting that a policy on a ticket cannot supercede your rights. I refer you to title 1 of the civil rights act of 1991.


PROHIBITION AGAINST ALL RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN THE MAKING
AND ENFORCEMENT OF CONTRACTS

SEC. 101

Section 1977 of the Revised Statutes (42 U.S.C. 1981) is amended-

(1) by inserting "(a)" before "All persons
within"; and

(2) by adding at the end the following new subsections:

"(b) For purposes of this section, the term 'make and enforce
contracts' includes the making, performance, modification, and termination
of contracts, and the enjoyment of all benefits, privileges, terms, and
conditions of the contractual relationship.

"(c) The rights protected by this section are protected
against impairment by nongovernmental discrimination and impairment under
color of State law."


So this situation would be the example of a modification (or termination) of a contract based soley on race. As you can see in section "c" we are also protected against nongovermental discrimination, which proves Squigee's post null and void. Not to mention the fact that most airlines are goverment contractors which obligates them to respect an even stricter level of non-discrimination laws.


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2583 times:

Airlines can NOT remove you from an aircraft 'for ANY reason'--they have to have a reason---one in which the person or other passengers are in danger (this includes safety concerns as well)..or an implide threat on the crew, passengers, or the safe operation of the aircraft has been made.

The pilot is in command-that is not in dispute- but in accordance with his companies policies--state law, if applicable, and federal law where applicable. He is not above the Constitution.

The fact that it states your removal for any reason is permissble by your contract of carriage is nonsense. That it obligitory boiler plate. Much the same way your parking ticket says they are not responsible if the garage collapses and destroys your car.

I am have not read the brief concerning the case. The fact that the CLU is involved is to me, highly suspect so I will reserve judgement on this specific incident.

I am concerned that most the people on here immediately defend air carriers for all their actions..and that all plaintiff are in some way seeking money.

Please..no responses from students or anyone under 20...it is meaningless.


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2570 times:

Considering my mom is a FA on American for 12 years now and my dad is a 777 pilot for AA and has been flying with the airlines since he was just out of college, I think i have great knowledge of what is and isn't allowed on planes and what the rule is for kicking people off the airplane. Myself, I am an instrument certified pilot for king airs and often fly with my dad. So I, along with others, have the right to voice our opinions.


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User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2555 times:

I think there have been some incidents of egregious discrimination that must be addressed and the victims should bring suit. The Air Carrier Access Act of 1986 prohibits discrimination based on race and disability. In the long run, these suits But I also share the scepticism of many of you since the ACLU is involved. They play for the wrong team more than half of the time.

I don't think it's fair to say Moslems invented terrorism...That is not correct at many different levels. I think it was one of things that sprang up in multiple places around the world.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6515 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Shlomoz said it best in his post. It is worth reading twice.

Maybe he is not 100% historically correct when writing "It was Moslems who invented terrorism." But otherwise, sure they were good learners.

I remember that my king (Christian II, King of Denmark) was responsible for the Stockholm Bloodbath in 1534 where 86 good men were massacred. And I doubt that he needed any foreign help for that deed.

The rest of Shlomoz's post is right on the spot.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

Flyingbronco...my father is a retired VP for a large movie studio....does that mean I know to make a movie? Of course not.

Just because daddy says he can kick anybody off the airplane does not make it so, does not make it right, and it surely does not make it legal. The court will prove that.

The ACLU is a varied group. They do serve their purpose to protect the Constitution--sometimes to the extreme. I can't say I agree with many of their decisions, but that is a price of freedom as well.

You, of course are entitled to your opinion. I'll retract my statement. At times, I get weary of students acting like they have any 'real world' knowledge--when in fact, they don't.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

But Asians, Blacks, Jews and Sikhs don't hijack civilian aircraft for the purpose of destroying landmarks and murdering innocent people in the name of religion!

And a few dozen muslims who do condem a whole race?!

Have to rememer it was CHRISTIANS who were murderous assholes during the crusades. Should we be weary of them too? After all we all know about hereditary.... Insane


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4224 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

How many years ago were the crusades?


Not to mention look at all the suicide bombers and threats we are getting.... they have a perfect right to boot them off. All the recent bombings and such for the past 20 years (minus timothy mcveigh) have been from 20-40 year old Muslim men. This is all perfectly logical.



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25 OA412 : But Asians, Blacks, Jews and Sikhs don't hijack civilian aircraft for the purpose of destroying landmarks and murdering innocent people in the name of
26 Shlomoz : But Asians, Blacks, Jews and Sikhs don't hijack civilian aircraft for the purpose of destroying landmarks and murdering innocent people in the name of
27 OA412 : And if they really, truly, yearn for the liberties and values that America espouses, then let them go and reform their societies, throw out their desp
28 777236ER : Not to mention look at all the suicide bombers and threats we are getting.... they have a perfect right to boot them off. All the recent bombings and
29 Mirabilis : Schlomoz: Your lack of knowledge of Islam or Muslims would be amusing were your comments not so plainly rooted in ignorance and racism. To your assert
30 Greg : We can all agree this will remain an interesting case. I, for one, hope it makes it to trial--although the odds are slim. I'll affirm my belief that t
31 Mirabilis : To the extent profiling takes place, it must take place based on racially-neutral criteria (e.g., passengers paying for a one-way ticket in cash), NOT
32 HAMAD : mirabilis, dont blame Shlomoz on his comments against islam and muslims. like if his government dont destroy the houses of palestinians every day and
33 Srbmod : Those hypocrites at the ACLU would do anything to keep in the news. If the events of 9/11 had been done by Asian, people wouldn't be assuming that all
34 Wingman : This is a very diffcult issue. Trying to balance the needs of security with unlimited personal freedom is not easy. But the facts speak for themselves
35 Twaneedsnohelp : Whatever, If I saw some Arab guys acting weird on a plane, I'd go nuts. I don't live in a vacuum people. There is an Arab Islamic terrorist network tr
36 Twaneedsnohelp : Now people like to get all emotional over this and make it into some race thing. If Orthodox Jews were hijacking planes and crashing them into buildin
37 Clipper001 : It was reported on NPR News and the BBC World News that the men who were removed from the planes were not subjected to any security followup. In the c
38 B747-437B : If I see some Arabs acting suspicious, your damn right I'd either get the hell off the plane or have them booted. The point here is the definition of
39 Ben88 : No one is addressing my post. It is illegal to kick someone off of a plane solely based on their race. That's pretty much it.
40 GD727 : Oh man, I can not stand this liberal bullsh*t! The fact remains that Arabs are much more likley than any other race, to commit terrorist acts. I mean,
41 David B. : yes GD and according to the FBI a serial killer or a person who commits a hate crime is a white male between the age of 20 and 40. Sure for you profil
42 Fly_emirates : the main purpose of this post is about the act of the airlines against some people by taking them off the planes after passing security and getting se
43 UALPHLCS : I agree w/ the aviation expert from El Al who said: "El Al looks for terrorists, US airlines look for weapons." We should be profiling. I don't care i
44 B747-437B : I don't care if you are Middle Eastern and you take offence. Take offence at the Middle Eastern Terrorist who are commitng crimes in your name. The pr
45 B757300 : I hate to say this, there probably won't be very many juries that are going to sympathetic to these stupid lawsuits. If it hadn't been 19 Arab men who
46 BA : UALPHLCS, Tell me, why should the entire Arab population suffer because of a few lunatics? Tell me, why? Why punish the entire Arab population because
47 OA412 : OA412...if you read further you'll that I retracted my previous statement regarding students. Yes, Greg I just saw that you did retract your statement
48 NWA742 : I can't believe some of you. What would you expect the US to do after 9/11? Over 3,000 of our innocent civilians were murdered by Arab terrorists, not
49 LoneStarMike : To me an airline's carriage of contract is like an apartment lease, in a way. Regarding the return of a security deposit, here is what the Austin Tena
50 Post contains images Jimbobjoe : A lot of interesting comments here. I like LoneStarMike's contract notes. An even simpler version of the same thing is this: in my state of Ohio, late
51 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : I agree, you can't pull people off a plane simply because they are Arab. Thats unAmerican. But if there is anyone, including Arabs, who are acting a l
52 Na : Racism must be punished. Thats for sure. But I can understand that in the days after 9/11 fear ruled many people. I bet that everday dozens, if not hu
53 Tca256 : Reading some posts, I can just say "Thanks God I'm living in Europe...." !!!!! Once in Brussels after september 11th, a flight to Tel Aviv was delayed
54 Goingboeing : As an American Tca256, all I can say is "Thank God you're living in Europe". Please, if the occassion presents itself for you to travel to this countr
55 BWIrwy4 : "Hello Flight Attendant. I see that there is an Arab man sitting in that seat over there. I don't feel comfortable flying with him. He might hijack th
56 Greg : Ben88....sorry for the long way around. Yes, absolutely--discrimination because of race is illegal. The reasons are in several posts. I still haven't
57 Mandala499 : Excellently put BWIrwy4! Another funny case is my friend's parents who were refused entry to US (while going to their daughter's wedding) due to the f
58 Goingboeing : It would have been embarrasing for the INS? Is there some law that states that the INS MUST allow anyone into the US? What would the grounds of the la
59 Post contains links N79969 : ChrisKSDF, Hate to see someone from my hometown call someone 'towelhead.' I expect more from Louisville. Yes, 19 for 19 of the hijackers were Arab. Ye
60 GD727 : Profiling is not racist. If whites were responsible for nearly all the terrorist attacks on the US for the last 30 years, I would profile them, but i
61 Arsenal@LHR : Let them get their Student Visas in London and study there They already do that my friend. Arsenal@LHR
62 OzarkD9S : Award them each $1.00 then tell 'em to get over it.
63 Morecy : Here's a thought; a passenger is considered "suspicious looking" - Ok, fine, take him off the plane and run him through security again. Theoretically,
64 N79969 : I wish the airlines and plaintiffs would settle this out of court. After all, in the end they are on the same side. The same applies for the AA captai
65 Post contains images Squigee : Greg- At no time did I say kick someone off because of their race. I agree with you when you said "they have to have a reason---one in which the perso
66 777236ER : rac·ism (rszm) n. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. ie. racial profiling. How can it not be racist?
67 OA412 : Profiling is not racist. If whites were responsible for nearly all the terrorist attacks on the US for the last 30 years, I would profile them, but it
68 Greg : ChrisKSDE..... It's clear that you have no idea what the ACLU actually does...or why it was chartered..so your comments are irrelevant. What you are t
69 N79969 : I think it is reasonable to conclude that young immigrant men from the Middle East fit the profile of terrorists who are targeting the US. It is an un
70 FDXmech : To paraphrase a great philosopher, "This situation is like a big sh%t sandwich, and we're all gonna take a bite". This war we're in will result in man
71 Post contains images ExitRow :
72 Fly_emirates : greg, i tried emailing you so that i thank you for something, but your email address is not displayed. you can email me its in my profile
73 Mirabilis : OA412: Well said, as usual. So far, I have yet to see any of those who support of racial profiling to adequately address the issue of the Oklahoma Cit
74 DCA-ROCguy : The incidents cited in the ACLU lawsuits all occurred in the aftermath of Sept. 11 last fall. Americans were justifiably traumatized, upset and scared
75 Mirabilis : DCA-ROC: Your post confuses me. You correctly recognize that federal law prohibits racial discrimination in airline passenger accommodation, yet you m
76 BA : No country in the entire Muslim civilization has a "democratically elected" government of the style found in the West. That's incorrect. Lebanon is a
77 DCA-ROCguy : If the plaintiffs have alleged a legally viable claim (e.g., that their federal and/or state rights were violated by airlines that engaged in racial d
78 Mirabilis : Jim: With all due respect, your position that the plaintiffs have not alleged a "wrong sufficient to justify compensation from the airlines" is not we
79 ExitRow : Law abiding Arab-American citizens are the recipients of the worst sort of consequences from Sept. 11. Not only did they have their country (U.S.A.) a
80 LoneStarMike : ...and quite frankly, being thrown off an airplane is not a life-ending experience. It is not a wrong sufficient to justify compensation from the airl
81 Alpha 1 : Greg, always the ambulance-or in this case, airplane-chaser.
82 L-188 : From what I have heard about this case I have to agree, these people have a legitimate beef and their case has merit. For a lot of you who seem to be
83 OA412 : In the paragraph you have quoted I am neither arguing that democratically elected governments currently exist in the Middle East nor, am I arguing tha
84 Lutfi : Interesting someone posted a picture of Richard Reid. His father is Jamaican, his mother English, in other words a "mulatto". Same ethnic background/
85 PHX 1 : Personally, I think that airline people are stuck in a corner right now. They have to be on guard, but still be "politically correct". You just can't
86 DCA-ROCguy : Several intelligent replies, but little time. Some key points.: At issue is not just hurt feelings, being inconvenienced, or even "rights in small thi
87 Lutfi : Again on the Richard Reid case. (the man in the photo some posts up) Racial profiling wouldn't have helped. He is about as Middle Eastern as George Bu
88 NWA : --"I'm sure that if it were any of you that were denied boarding...or taken off an aircraft, you'd have the same reaction. We can just hope that some
89 Post contains links B747-437B : This is an issue with much personal significance for me. I have been the victim of similar incidents, once each with Delta and Continental. The Delta
90 Eugdog : To deny those of Arab descent the right to travel by air is a serious detriment to their lives - many business man could loose their jobs because air
91 Greg : NWA...teens that have not reached their majority are subject to different rule, regulations and laws in many circumstances--it's because your are lega
92 Mirabilis : Jim, one quick response: Pretty much the whole planet has a "less than laudatory past" on maltreatment of innocents....It seems like "piling on" to su
93 N79969 : I think you do have to take into account people's state of mind in the months following 9/11. I don't think exempting the airlines from liability is t
94 Jaysit : News Alert: The FAA has announced that those passengers suffering from "Indeterminate Brown Person" sinusititis, an old disease commonly observed in A
95 B747-437B : Jaysit - I would have laughed at your post, except it strikes too close to home. Great analogy.
96 N79969 : Jaysit- I laughed. That was pretty funny.
97 LoneStarMike : At the same time, the plaintiffs ought not to push their case to seek huge awards.Why are we (myself included) jumping to conclusions here? How do we
98 N79969 : Actually, I didn't read it or assume the plaintiffs were asking for large amounts of money. Although they potentially could by amending their complain
99 GD727 : The OKC bombing was ONE terrorist event commited by a white man, just ONE white man. All most EVERY terrorist event in the US, other than OKC, for the
100 FDXmech : Because the USA has experienced a "rough time" in the aftermath of September 11th does not mean that these legal protections, which were fought for lo
101 LoneStarMike : N79969:Although I did quote part of your post, I wasn't really trying to attack your point of view. My comments were directed at everyone who seemed t
102 Post contains links and images Ual777contrail : this is why there is racial profiling now,these planes are no longer with us.they were used as weapons to take down two really big buildings. View Lar
103 Jaysit : Gd727: Actually a number of terrorist acts in the US were committed by a whole slew of white folk. What do you call Church bombings in Alabama that ki
104 Greg : UAL777...It's very clear that you wrote your post to be nothing more than inflammatory. It shows nothing more than ignorance. It's thoughts like that
105 Mirabilis : FDX: These acts of discrimination aren't as punishment or retribution for our rough time in the aftermath of 9/11, but rather to prevent another Sept.
106 Fly_emirates : Eugdog, well i am middle eastern, i work on Emirates airlines and i went to the usa on vacation to visit my parents in march after sep11.. well, when
107 LoneStarMike : These acts of discrimination aren't as punishment or retribution for our rough time in the aftermath of 9/11, but rather to prevent another Sept.11.So
108 Post contains images Baec777 : I am American-Palestinian born U.S. Citizen. I flies to Middle East all the times. I boarded U.S. carriers all the times, and never been taken off the
109 Squigee : Greg- for someone who is advocating the ACLU's right to free speech, you are not allowing the same right to those who disagree with you. (although, th
110 N79969 : UAL777Contrail, It is not awesome these guys were pulled of the plane. It was a mistake. Bottom line. Those guys were innocent...the airlines action i
111 B747-437B : Why would/should an innocent person do this? I think the argument being made is that Arabs, or anyone who looks Arab to an uneducated person, should n
112 Ual777contrail : it doesnt matter if you were an airline employees or not,that could have been my mom, your mom who ever.when you work around this trash all day you ge
113 ExitRow : UAL777Contrail, i think they should racial profile,and the fact they pulled these people off the planes was awesome.this is america,if you dont know w
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