Jiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 778 times:
The 3rd round of talk between Taiwan and Hong Kong over the air traffic agreement is due on Friday, and likely to sign the deal. Eventhough the talk haven't begin, it already hits the iceberg already.
This is due to CI and other Taiwanese carrier attacking EVA Air for receiving all the additional slots for Taiwan. And all Taiwanese carrier claims that "They're the only one to be the 3rd airline to fly HKG".
Hong Kong Government thinks that it's ok to have the 3rd airline from Taiwan to fly, which will use the slots planned for CI. But CX/KA claims that if Taiwan lets the 3rd airline to join, they will not make any profits, because Taiwan will use "suicidal" price to attract passengers.
Taiwan's Transasia Airways and Far Eastern Air Transport wanted to fly Taiwan-HK. However, all 5 Taiwanese carriers besides CI claims that they have the rights to fly HK.
China Airlines' union has asked the parliament to demand CAA not go give all the slots (including CI's)to EVA, because CAA is making BR rich. EVA is mad at CI's union, and opens fire towards CI, saying that CI's move is shameful.
EVA's subsidiary UNI Air also opens fire. UNI claims that they listened to the Government's demand to fly small islands which controlled by Taiwan, and it never receives any new position to fly international routes when new slots are giving out.
Mandarin Airlines' position is embarassing, due to it's relationship with CI. But it also claims that the company itself should be the 3rd airline to fly Taiwan-HKG.
Hkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 777 times:
CI should not even be allowed into the talks !!. I say give all new routes to BR and KA.
As for FAT, do they have enough aircraft to fly to Hong Kong ??. One 757 is with Air Macau, One is painted in Toyota colours and may only be allowed to operate in Taiwan plus two other 757's are in EVA colours.
CXCPA From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 387 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 726 times:
WHAT?? Mandarin want to be the 3rd Taiwanses airline to fly to HK? Mandarin is fully owned by CAL. Both airlines co-opearte extremely closely. We can assume they are the same company! Are Mandarin crazy, out of control??
Four airlines are enough. No more carriers.
Hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1219 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 712 times:
This whole situation is in a mess but I hope the HK-Taiwan talks are successful. I say EVA should be granted the slots that were originally going to be given to CI & the other Taiwanese carriers should be allowed into the market. This will benefit passengers significantly as fares will drop. I don't think CX's or KA's business on the HK-Taiwan routes will be drastically affected with the inclusion of more airlines flying the 'golden route' as travel demand between China & Taiwan is increasing.
Jesseycy From New Zealand, joined Aug 2001, 343 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 692 times:
I think that as long as Taiwan and China don't become one country, there will never be direct flights. Mind you, not that I'm "for China"... It's only because because they are in so close proximity to each other, air defence for the two countries will be non existent! It will be almost impossible to tell a missile from an airplane! So unless China either accepts that there are two countries, or Taiwan accepts that it's one country, and there's no more need for air defence, I don't think the direct air link will be possible....
Btw, I read this in a newsweek article, I really forgot which one, but it explains why there are no direct links, although the trade is so strong.....
Hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1219 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 694 times:
Well direct transport links between the two countries seem VERY far off, but I would think that'd be one of the first priorities for China & Taiwan when the day comes they see eye to eye on the 'One China' principal, whether it's Beijing's or Taiwan's interpretation. Because having to fly to Hong Kong first and then onward to Taiwan or China is inconvenient & a hassle and greatly increases the risk of an incident because of the large number of daily flights. That's set to increase as trade links between China & Taiwan strengthen.
Air Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1516 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 670 times:
apparantly, jesseycy, the current proposal is to put political problems on one side, and concentrate on the economical and technical problems... that's the position of the governments on both sides of the Taiwan Strait....
And they'll call the routes "cross-strait routes" as a compromise (Taiwan wanted to make it "international" and China wanted to make it "domestic"...)
Also the chance of China attacking Taiwan using missiles are very slim. Not saying that it will never happen, but the Chinese government wouldn't let anything hurt its economy right now, especially a war...