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TWA Livery No More  
User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Greetings:

According to AMR's website the last TWA plane to wear the TWA livery is nolonger. Ship # 4WS left STL on June 6 to Kansas City where it will be repainted in the Silver Bird livery. This plane also carriers the Wings of Pride livery. It's going to be wied the next time I fly through STL and only see AA.

Thanx
Tom

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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

I think there is still on more 717 in full TWA colors left. I saw it at STL yesterday.

User currently offlinePilothica737 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

You have been highly misinformed... there are still may "TWA" planes left. I am from STL, and knw firsthand there are still alot left...


User currently offlineN80NA From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

here is the article Tbird is referring to :

FOR RELEASE: June 6, 2002
LAST AIRCRAFT IN TWA LIVERY VISITS ST. LOUIS

St. Louis - The last aircraft in the traditional TWA livery, No. 4WS, will visit St. Louis today, as it flies its last revenue flight before going to the American Airlines Kansas City Maintenance Base to be transformed into the American Airlines Silver Bird livery. The plane will arrive at St. Louis Lambert International Airport at 9:14 a.m., as Flight #2924, and depart at 10:03 a.m. as Flight #3046. The plane will arrive at St. Louis again in the afternoon, at 1:34 p.m. as Flight #2669, and depart at 2:16 p.m. as Flight #3133.

"Workers at the Kansas City Base are about to pull off a phenomenal feat, something never done before in the history of aviation," said David Campbell, vice president of the Kansas City Base. "By the end of next week they will have stripped, polished, and painted 130 airplanes in just nine months. That’s the biggest livery project ever attempted by an airline or vendor to our knowledge."

American Airlines acquired TWA in April of 2001. Since then the employees of the two airlines have contributed to the largest and most successful airline merger in the history of aviation.

"I can’t say enough about the Kansas City Maintenance workers who pulled this off in record time," Campbell continued. "On behalf of the company I wish to express our thanks and congratulations on a job well done!"

Aircraft No. 4WS, a Super 80, is also special for another reason. In 1994, it was TWA pilot Mike McDonald’s idea to have the employees of TWA lease an aircraft through payroll deductions to demonstrate pride in the company.

The aircraft was dubbed the Wings of Pride, and it entered TWA service on Sept. 16, 1994. The plane originally sported an all-red-with-white-trim livery, the reverse of

the TWA livery at that time. In 1997, the Wings of Pride got an updated look along with the rest of the TWA fleet, taking on the new red, blue, white and gold TWA livery with decals on the nose and the fuselage denoting its special status.

The Wings of Pride will roll into the Kansas City Base hangar on June 6, and leave about a week later in American Airlines livery. Nine 767s purchased by American during the TWA acquisition will not be re-branded because they will be retired next year.


User currently offline762er From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

With the retirement of the TWA 763's will they continue the STL-Hawaii services and STL-LGW?

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
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Is the article refering to the "classic" livery pictured below rather than to the more recent TWA livery?

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User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Since the aircraft they are refering to had been repainted into what became TWA's final paint scheme (and something that is IMO infinatly better than the 1970s vintage AA scheme) I believe that the article is refering to planes in TWA livery in general. However, as I still see 767s and 717s in TWA colors when I go to work near KSTL, what I believe they ment was that the last TWA plane that they plan on keeping beyond next year will be repainted into AA colors.

And as soon as the last couple of ERJ-145s in TWE colors are replaced with Amnerican Connection ERJ-140s, that will be the end of the TWE scheme as well.


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User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I was just in STL today and saw two 717's in full TWA colors and the previoulsy mentioned 767's. I saw "Wings of Pride" two times this week landing at STL. In fact, I saw it this past Thursday.

User currently offlineSJCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 579 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

Ya'll are smokin...TWA MD80's come here to SJC almost daily, including yesterday morning.... hmmm?

SJCguy


User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
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From the article posted N80NA: "By the end of next week they will have stripped, polished, and painted 130 airplanes in just nine months. That’s the biggest livery project ever attempted by an airline or vendor to our knowledge."

Does anyone have the figures for the total number of aircraft operated by TWA at the time of their acquisition? Perhaps I should ask if anyone knows the breakdown by aircraft type of the TWA aircraft repainted?
Thanks for your help.


User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

I think I saw an MD80 on approach to IND tonight in the final TWA scheme.TC


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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

This is a bunch of Hogwash. I still see AA planes in TWA livery fly overhead including today. I look through my telescope and see planes headed to STL all of the time.

User currently offlineQFATWA From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1732 times:

The 130 aircraft referred to probably are the:
MD80/83 fleet (103 aircraft)
757 fleet (27 aircraft) = 130 aircraft.

According to Bill Harms [Commercial Jet Aircraft Census] there are
6 717s still in the fleet [all in new TWA livery]
9 767-300's [8 in new TWA livery and 1 in old red & white stripe livery]

So that makes 14 mainline jets in new livery and one in old livery [and a few TWE RJ aircraft].

I guess from today 7/8 June, if anyone spots an MD80 or 757 in new TWA livery, that will contradict the press release.


User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

AA is not keeping the 717. They are selling them. That is why they were not counted by AA.

User currently offlinePropilotjw From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 589 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

here is the deal...AA has repainted all of the planes that THEY ARE GOING TO RETAIN in their colors...this EXCLUDEs the 767-300ER, and 717-200 series. These planes are not goignt o be carried over to American airlines. the 717's are becoming few and far between and are scheduled to be gone by months end. the 767's are goign to be sold and AA witll replace the ex-TWA 767's with NEW GE engined 767-300ER's hope this helps.

User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Are there any aircraft that AA is planning on keeping still with TWA/AA in the TWA transitional livery?

A bit of topic, but amazingly Air Canada still has a few 737s in the Canadian transitional livery.


User currently offlineAeroGlobeAir7 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1627 times:

Sad to see the old TWA birds go. I know I'm too young to really be too nostalgic about our old hometown airline (I live in a suburb of Kansas City), but it will be sad to never see a TWA plane again once they're all gone. But I will enjoy the larger number of AA planes coming through, I love AA's livery and logo. It'll be neat to see the logo on the overhaul hangars on the way into the terminal complex.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Does anyone know what types of aircraft AA plans on overhauling at the MCI facility?

User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1604 times:

Where will those TW 767s end up? Is there a buyer, or will they be parked?

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7529 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

All 757's and MD-80's will be in full AA scheme now.
The 717's are not being repainted and will be pulled from service on June 14th.
The 767-300's are not being repainted either. This aircraft will be in service for about another year. AA has 9 767-300's with GE engines on order that will be delivered starting in May 2003. These aircraft will replace the TWA 763's. STL-HNL, STL-OGG, & STL-LGW service will be retained, at least for now, as will 767 service from STL.
Thus, after next week, the only aircraft still wearing TWA colors will be the 763's, and that will be for another year. So, go to STL, LAX, MCO, SFO, HNL, LGW, or OGG to see TWA colors.

As for maintenance.....
AA opened a 767-200 mx base at MCI back in March, these aircraft were previously serviced at AFW.
This summer AA is opening up a 737-800 mx base and CFM-56 engine shop for the 737's at MCI.
Former TWA MD-80's mx will remain there.


User currently offlineSquigee From Canada, joined May 2001, 652 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1587 times:


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Wings of Pride aircraft, old version, and new with decal...



Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
User currently offlineKjet12 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 975 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

On that day, I saw that exact aircraft taxi behind my UAL Express Canadair RJ at O'hare.

Thanks For Flying,
Kris



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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

I'm surprised no one produced a model of this aircraft (Wings of Pride). I'm sure it would make a highly collectable piece. Not a bad looking one, too.

tony


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Herpa sold a n/c "Wings of Pride MD-83 in 1:500 last year.
Schabak still offers a WoP MD-83 in the old colors in 1:600.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

To call the repaint program a feat is not exactly the right term. It would have been a feat if they had to strip the planes, and then paint them in another color. Other then the tail, nose cone, and engine nacelles, the transition from the TWA livery to the AA livery was not really a major undertaking.

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1927 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

If all TWA planes are now in AA colors... then why did I see 2 TWA 767's in TWA colors land at LAX today?


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineKKMolokai From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

FOR RELEASE: Wednesday, June 12, 2002
AMERICAN AIRLINES WORKERS MAKE AVIATION HISTORY AS THEY FINISH TWA LIVERY PROJECT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE

ST. LOUIS - Workers at the American Airlines Kansas City Maintenance Base have won a spot in aviation history today as they completed re-branding a record of 130 TWA airplanes in just nine months. The re-branding project began last September, just months after American Airlines acquired TWA in April of 2001, and just days after the same group of workers finished adding inches to the legroom in the coach section of the majority of the TWA fleet to match American Airlines' More Room Throughout Coach product.

The entire former TWA MD-80 and 757 fleets now sport the American Airlines "Silver Bird" livery, after Kansas City workers stripped, polished, and painted them. The Silver Bird livery consists of red, white, and blue striping on brilliant polished aluminum, with the American Airlines logo on the tail and the company’s name on the fuselage. The former TWA 767s will not be re-branded, as they will be retired next year.

"Completion of this project is a monumental step in finishing the integration of TWA into American Airlines," said Don Carty, CEO and Chairman of American Airlines. "It's fitting that the smoothest and largest airline integration should also make aviation history as the fastest re-branding project ever completed. My congratulations and thanks go out to the Kansas City workers."

"We know of no other airline or vendor that has re-branded 130 planes in just nine months," said David Campbell, Vice President of the Kansas City Base. "We believe that is because no other airline or vendor has employees with the skills and determination shown by American Airlines employees. This project is just one example of the American Airlines spirit that does not waver when facing a challenge." Approximately 250 American Airlines employees worked on six paint lines to finish the project. It t ook about a week to re-brand each aircraft. Those employees will now be transitioned to other projects, including a new 737-800 MBV (main base visit) line that will open in July. American Airlines also recently opened a 767-300 MBV line at the Kansas City Base.




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