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Help! AA No PTVs In Coach On 777?!  
User currently offlineLeftseat86 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Is this true? On their website it has the following seating chart:

For Atlantic Flights.I'll be flying AA from Heathrow-LAX on the 4th of July. The chart shows "Video Monitors" ??? What are those supposed to be?
And then there are black dots on most of the seats, but only some in coach...I don't get it...
There MUSt be ptvs, any airline that buys new 777s would have them, it would be retarded not to...

-Clovis

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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

There MUSt be ptvs, any airline that buys new 777s would have them, it would be retarded not to...

How is it retarded?

The chart shows "Video Monitors" ??? What are those supposed to be?

Erm....perhaps, and this is only a stab in the dark, but perhaps they're video monitors?

There are video monitors and PTVs. The monitors can ensure that everyone can see emergency videos, and anything AA wants everyone to see. Some PTVs (at bulkheads, some in busines etc) fold away so you can't rely on them if you want to someone everyone something.


User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3974 times:
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AA does have PTV's on all 777 and some A300 aircraft.

The large vieo monitors are for things such as a safety demo or AirShow.

Hope that helps!
JBLUA320


User currently offlineLeftseat86 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

I know 777236ER, you think I'm a moron...ok ...

 Sad

It would be retarded because almost EVERY airline that buys new aircraft, (777/A330) gets PTVs, they're almost standard...You can compete without them. UA, CO, Delta all have 777s with PTVS...

I understand those are video monitors.  Smile
fold away so you can't rely on them if you want to someone everyone something.
What?????

-Clovis Big grin






User currently offlineCMK10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3941 times:

For christ sake you don't need PTV's for a long haul flight, read a friggin book. On the A300, there are no video monitors so the f/a's have to do the demonstration by hand.
fold away so you can't rely on them if you want to someone everyone something.
This way they can show connection information, safety demonstrations etc. etc.
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User currently offlineFly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3940 times:

well on our 777's in Emirates airlines ...there are main ptv for safety demo.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

fold away so you can't rely on them if you want to someone everyone something

 Smile I meant, if you wanted to show every passenger a video then you can't rely on PTVs as some fold away.


User currently offlineOlympic A-340 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 780 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

My god, it is as if people don't even want to fly an airplane without PTVs...
We are all airplane nuts (hence airliners.net NOT ptv.net)
Just get over it-and like many others have said, read a book

Just my 2 cents  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

...but ptvs do come in handy on long flights. If you want to read a book fine, but maybe I wouldn't like to.


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User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3900 times:

Well, for the record, American's 777s do have PTVs in coach. Delta's are set up similarly, with PTVs as well as overhead video monitors.


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3892 times:
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For christ sake you don't need PTV's for a long haul flight, read a friggin book

What if you don't read books, or don't want to read one?

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Arsenal@LHR wrote:
What if you don't read books, or don't want to read one?

Sleep, watch the inflight movie on the mainscreen, look out the window, eat, talk to your neighbor, talk to a flight attendant, join the mile high club, peer through the curtains to biz class.

Just a few things to think about doing with out PTVs. Anyone got any others.

I L U V 7 6 7


User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

How about breaking out the crayons and applying them on a spiffy coloring book? I have actually done this before and it kills time like nothing else. Sure the other passengers on the Upper deck going to Sydney gave a few strange looks, but hey it killed time! Also play cards, stare out the window and just think always seems to be one of the best things to do as well. And if your still so upset that you don't have a PTV do yourself a favour and sit there and rot in your seat. If the above suggestions don't work for someone without a PTV, I feel sorry for them!

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Play gameboy, call a friend... the list is infinate.
Look at a magazine, Read the newspaper, walk down the aisles counting people...

You don't need PTV's. I often flew SWissair SFO-ZRH on the MD-11's with no PTV's. Its just fine. I will be flying AA SFO-JFK-ZRH this summer with no PTV's. PTV's are sooooo overrated. They are not as good as everyone makes the out to be.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3826 times:
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PTV's are there because passenger entertainment demands them. A lot of pax like them including me. On a 12 hour transatlantic flight, i need them desperately, for how long can you sleep/read a magazine/talk to your neighbour or just stare into the back of the seat in front of you? Maybe 3 hours,4 hours,5 hours or even 6 hours, but after that? that's where the PTV's come in handy, you can fiddle about with them. Anyway, why pay $600 for a flight that hasn't PTV's when u can have them on another flight?

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3825 times:

Writing a travel journal also helps to pass the time.

User currently offlineDLMCO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

ILUV767 has the best idea -- join the mile high club Big grin.

I also agree with ILOVEA340 -- I've used the PTV's on both DL and BA -- they're very cool, but they grow old after awhile...


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3805 times:
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The best thing about PTV's is the airmaps, at least you can see what route your plane is taking, which is quite fun to be honest.




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User currently offlineJj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

The need for the ptv appeared when the first ptv's were introduced. But before that there were very long flights without the ptv. What did you do then?
Well, I just read, talked to FA's and slept. And that was for a lot of years. Yet I enjoyed flying and I didn't need the ptv.... You should get used to flying without ptv's, because you'll be in flights on airlines without such high standards of entertainment, and you'll die!


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32702 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

Seriously, what's the big deal? Some people like PTVs, some don't, but there is no reason for those who don't to criticise people who like them by telling them to "read a book". The same way that some people don't like PTVs, others don't like reading books.


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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

First of all, the black dots represent powerport locations. It WOULD be retarded to put PTVs on select coach seats. So don't worry about that, Leftseat86. Airlines do not need to provide PTVs, tho they are nice to have. They should have an inflight entertainment system. AA's MD-80s don't, but the 757s do. This means if you fly to DFW from LGA on a 757 you get a movie. Go from JFK and you don't. But that means you get a choice. If you were so concerned about PTVs you should have asked before you paid your fare  Smile

User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3267 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

Cmk10, Arsenal@LHR and Olympic A-340:

I noticed you like to use God and Christ in your replies. Is there something theologically profound about PTVs on a 777? Or are you all just a part of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood?



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User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

It seems some people only read books on flights, that explains why it is their first argument against PTVs...Suddenly books turn into something special for them...

I read many books during a year, for my studies or just for fun. But I still love PTVs...all the arguments and the seemingly hard battle of all the PTV-opponents just make me  Yawn  Yawn  Yawn

Maybe some people should fly more often, they would probably read two books a year instead of one...


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineLeftseat86 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

I'm used to UA...channel 9 + window seat + Moving Map =  Love  Love  Love

I have stuff to read, but The flight goes faster with PTVs...I used to fly AF 744s without them, and like 31inch seat pitch!  Sad

ILUV767, I would join the club but I'll have to find a partner first Big grin


User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Thais 777 do NOT have PTVs...


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25 The Coachman : Tsentsan, So? What relevance does that have? It's not like AA asks Boeing to make PTV's for them... and it's not like Boeing decides whether AA has PT
26 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "What is a video monitor?" indeed i wonder
27 Tsentsan : The Coachman Sir, I was referring to leftseat86's comment that "There MUSt be ptvs, any airline that buys new 777s would have them, it would be retard
28 Skymonster : Try Aeroflot - their 777s don't have PTVs! Andy
29 The Coachman : Tsentsan, No need. Thai uses their 772's on short regionals.
30 Tsentsan : Coachman, Fine, you're the expert mate. BTW, I was referring to their 777-300s. They're short haul enough to go to SYD and AKL.
31 Udo : If Thai services to Japan, Korea and Australia are short hauls, what are Jetblue's East Coast hops then? Cathay, SIA and Malaysia all have PTVs on the
32 The Coachman : Hmm.... well, I was thinking 772...and they're definitely short-haul...10-across in economy, their 773's have 9-abreast. TG doesn't have all that much
33 AA2MM : I have flown the AA 777s so far 5 RTs..fortunately I always got upgraded into C class . I did take walks back there...and there are PTVs at every sea
34 Reggaebird : Top 5 things to do if you don't have PTV on a long-haul flight: #5. Do naughty things to yourself under the blanket. #4. Do naughty things to your ne
35 Post contains images Leftseat86 : Actually the black dots are laptop power outlets.. -Clovis P.S. Guys stop making fun of me about the video monitors!!
36 Baec777 : Not all B777s must have PTVs. Not a problem to me unless no taller passengers sit in front of me with cowboy hat on. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!! You guys
37 TimeForFlight : personally, i like PTVs. its something extra to do to pass the time and they allow passengers options - something extra than "beef or chicken..." howe
38 Shaun3000 : To answer the question, yes, all AA 777s have PTVs. The video monitors are for the safety demonstrations. In flight, they usually show one of the movi
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