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Brussels-Syria Flights Start Saturday  
User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1153 times:

Some news for the spotters and other airport addicts: Syrian Arab Airlines (RB/SYR) starts its Brussels-Syria route (Damascus, Aleppo) this saturday june 15. I don't have more info about hours.




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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2387 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1117 times:

The Syrianair A320-200s are scheduled to land in Brussels every Saturday at 10.00 and to depart Brussels at 11.00 from June 15.


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User currently offlineEstablished02 From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1079 times:

You can find more details about the schedule at:

http://www.brusselsairport.be/timetables/


Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to ALEPPO (ALP)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 16:15 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 15:15 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from ALEPPO (ALP) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 03:00 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 04:00 10:00 320 1506-3009



Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to DAMASCUS (DAM)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 18:00 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 17:00 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from DAMASCUS (DAM) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 01:15 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 02:15 10:00 320 1506-3009


Regards,

Established02


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1068 times:

Why Allepo and not Damascus?



User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1064 times:

it's Allepo and Damascus, double touch flight

User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

Thx for the information. I already saw Syrian Arab Airlines at Frankfurt last year.

Is there such a great potential for Syria - Belgium flights then? If I'm correct, even SN used to fly to Syria (or am I mistaking Syria with another Middle East country? I remember from last year when I was a luggage sorter at BRU that there were late evening flights to - I think - Syria with an A321)

Ivan



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2387 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1035 times:

Are you sure it wasn't Beirut, Lebanon?


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

I think that you mean Beirut Ivan.

BTW: an A321? This route was flown with their A320, and during the last months with an A319.

And the hours for the Syrian Arab are much better now, than their previous schedule which was during the night. So great for spotters  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1003 times:

Strange, all those changes in their schedules.

Firstly:

2 flights a week (every Thursday and Saturday) with this schedule:

Damascus - Aleppo - Wenen - Bru every thursday and saturday
18u00 00u45

Bru - Wenen - Aleppo - Damascus every friday and sunday
01u45 10u25

Secondly:

Only 1 flight a week:

Arriving in Brussels at at 07.15am and back to DAM at 08.15am.

Now:

Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to ALEPPO (ALP)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 16:15 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 15:15 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from ALEPPO (ALP) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 03:00 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 04:00 10:00 320 1506-3009



Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to DAMASCUS (DAM)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB434 -----6- 11:00 18:00 320 1506-3009
RB434 -----6- 11:00 17:00 320 3009-2610

Scheduled flights from DAMASCUS (DAM) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
RB433 -----6- 01:15 10:00 320 3009-2610
RB433 -----6- 02:15 10:00 320 1506-3009

Why all those changes?

Regards,
Frederic







User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 980 times:

Flights from DAM to BRU now run via AMS instead of VIE.

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 954 times:
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The laodfactors to BEY wasn't bad at all at Sabena... The potential of the Middle East market is generally very good. Moreover I know that Austrian Airlines flights to Damascus are very full with a lot of connecting pax in VIE.

Good luck to RB, BRU needs new carriers !!!


FB.



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User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 927 times:

sorry guys. It was indeed Beirut instead of Damascus. I knew it was somewhere in the middle-east  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

About the aircraft, I'm sure they used a A321 at least a couple of times, but it doesn't matter now anymore, does it...

anyway, sorry 'bout that....Those memories tend to get packed somewhere in the very (dark) back of my brains, as the most efficient part nowadays is needed for my exams Big grin

Ivan



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User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 906 times:

Sabena usually flew a 737-300 to Beirut. It was the only 737 nightlfight

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Aww, I see Damascus to Brussells with a stop in Allepo.

thanks.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8093 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 902 times:

Interesting how some European airlines fly to the near east overnight with fairly small aircraft (737s, MD80s) and make loads of money doing it. Alitalia (MD80s), LOT (737s), Malev (737s), Austrian (A320s) and Sabena (A320s) all leave their home bases at about 11pm and fly a narrowbody to Beirut, Damascus, Cairo, Tripoli, Amman et al, arriving at the destination about 3am local, spend 50 mins on the ground and fly back to their home base in time for sunrise. No way is there any market between Budapest and Beirut, maybe a couple of pax a week. But feed Malev's hub with a few pax each from London, Paris, Frankfurt, Madrid, Brussels et al and voila, four or five full flights a week on each red-eye route. Good use of what would otherwise be parked aircraft.


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 874 times:

Today, Syrian Airlines flew for the first time to Brussels.

Arrival:

15/06 10:00 Damascus RB 433 Landed: 10:28
via Aleppo
via Amsterdam

Departure:

15/06 11:00 Damascus RB 434 Departed: 12:02
via Aleppo

The aircraft doesn't fly to Amsterdam before flying to Aleppo and Damascus during the return flight??

I heard that the first flight of RB was sold out.

BTW, now that we are talking about the Middle East, I heard that the load factor for this summer is very high on the Royal Jordanian flights. RJ flies this summer two times a week to Brussels with an A310.

Regards,
Frederic




User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 867 times:

SAbena690, yes the flight is Damascus - Aleppo - Amsterdam - Brussels - Aleppo - Damascus. During AMS-BRU the flighht has two flight numers RB433 and RB434.

Sabena 690, isn't one of the RJ also a flight AMM-BRU-AMS-BRU-AMM with an A320?


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 839 times:

Hello Laurens,

It depends. Sometimes it is direct BRU-AMMAN, sometimes via Amsterdam, sometimes via Vienna...

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 819 times:

SN 690,

The vienna stop of RJ isjust a technical stop. Due to range problems they must land there for fuel sometimes. SLR has the same problem with the charterflights to Hurghada or Sharm El Sheikh


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 807 times:

The vienna stop of RJ isjust a technical stop. Due to range problems they must land there for fuel sometimes. SLR has the same problem with the charterflights to Hurghada or Sharm El Sheikh

Aha, that is the reason. I see that every week on the SLR flights to Hurghada etc.

Thanks for the info!

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineGlider From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 788 times:

Flights from Hurghada; cool! I was on one of former Citybird. We also had to make a second landing, but we did that at Rome Ciampino. Lots of take-offs and landings on that flight  Wink/being sarcastic (Hurghada - Sharm-El-Sjeik - Rome Ciampino - Brussels).
On that flight, I realised that there are some stupid people living on this planet. The announcement of a fuel stop in Rome was made by intercom at Sharm-el-Sjeik airport. The lady next to me called a crew member and told her she didn't pay for a second landing, and that she would like to go imediately to BRU. Wonder what this woman would like the most; make a fuel stop and arrive in BRU only half an hour later, or getting out of fuel and make an emergency landing.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 775 times:

Hahaha Glider, great story  Big thumbs up

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 768 times:



These fuelstops are one of the main reasons why SLR will change it Boeing Fleet into NG Boeing 737... The fuelstop is not only uncomfortable for the pax, sometimes pilots go out of duty time and need to be replaced at the fuel stop airport... A flight BRU-SHARM-VIE FUELSTOP -BRU is a long long working day for a crew. VEX had during their 'charter period' the advantage of having a crew base in Rome. So they could switch the crew in Rome in no time. SLR sometimes had to sent an extra crew tu Vienna with a Sabena flight... I don't know how they are operating this now.












User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 730 times:
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In my understanding the VIE stops of SLR flights from Hurghada & Sharm-El-Sheik inbound to BRU were also due to crew rest regulations...

I'm not too sure it's still the case as night stops were then introduced in Egypt for SLR crews.

Hope this helps;

FB.



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