Pizzapolli From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1186 times:
There were several LHR 74's last summer. ORD and IAD both had them. The IAD 74 went IAD-LHR-BOM-NRT-LAX-IAD I believe or was it HKG, well either way thats the idea. I flew the LHR-IAD and IAD-LAX legs.
MEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1082 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1126 times:
Actually, at the moment, United is using a 747-400 (N127UA) to sub for several 777 and 763 flights to London, and 777s flights to Frankfurt, all from Washington IAD. I think the 744 will be doing IAD-FRA tonight, and for the next 3 days, then its fate at IAD is unknown.
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1123 times:
UA is using 744's to LHR again i believe, donder10 mentioned it in another thread. i'll go and check it out, it'd be great if we see the 744's back again in europe. UA has 4 daily ORD-LHR flights, one of them has got to be a 744.
KaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1101 times:
Last summer at this time of year SFO also had a 747-400 evening departure to LHR. United desperately needs to pull the 744 off these silly domestic routes and stick them on international flights where they belong. Already flights this summer to Asia, Europe, Australia/NZ are surprizingly full!
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1013 times:
Why should United pull 744s off of domestic routes? Most of the time they are continuing on to an international destination or reposition flight. Plus United would rather fly a plane than let it sit for hours, which some airlines around the world do.
Every domestic 744 flight I've been on has had a packed gate area.... and the flight seemed to be packed, well at least in Business.. never flown in coach on a 747 in my life :P
UA will continue to sub 744s for 777s to Europe.. you'll see quite a few subs into FRA and LHR out of both LAX and ORD.
KaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 942 times:
Why should United pull 747s from domestic routes you ask? The answer is quite simple... Profit! The majority of biz class on domestic flights seems to fill up mainly due to upgrades. Thats why biz class seems "full". It happens on all 3 class cabins on domestic routes. Just the other week I was flying a 777 from EWR to DEN. Biz class was wide open with 20 seats. Being a standby I figured I was all set for Biz class. Come to get my ticket with seat 1A I was more then surprised to find out 20 people upgraded from Economy! Happened once again on a 777 from IAD-DEN. Anyways... Those 747's could be pulling in ALOT more money doing international flights. Even if they do "sit for a couple hours". When those jets fly routes like SFO-HKG-SIN compared to a standard domestic routing like SFO-DEN-ORD-DEN, Those few extra hours on the ground for intl 747's make up in the most important thing $$$$. High yielding passengers is why it would be nice to see the 747-400 back on many international routes. I'm not saying the domestic 747s aren't doing well. But Domestic profit to Intl profit is comparing Night and Day don't you agree? Granted I may not be "Mr. Know it all" about airline operations, but a quick look over several different routes going over seas for this coming summer is a good indication for United that more 747's would do extremely well out there.
Soon your luck with non coach flying on 747s will run dry like mine did after 22 flights across the Pacific in biz class! Enjoy it while it lasts!
FutureFO From New Caledonia, joined Oct 2001, 3095 posts, RR: 24 Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 841 times:
The UA 744 went LAX-IAD-LHR-DEL-HKG-LAX. As flights 1/2 E/W routing for an around the world. And right now out of IAD they are running 744's to cover for the major overbooking of the LHR flights this week and FRA next week.
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 802 times:
actually, the 3rd JFK-LHR flight was sent to IAD.
In terms of thinking that "pacific" flights are high yield, yer totally wrong. Fares to Singapore in coach have been hovering between $500 to $600 USD... many people fly United to singapore JUST for the miles.. there's an entire thread with about 100 replies on it over at FlyerTalk.
United puts their 747s where they see fit, and MAYBE on a given day, 2 are flying strictly domestic routes.. but not too many. But my friends at ORD said the 3pm flight to LAX, which is a 744, goes out *full* all the time... although that doesn't mean it's making money, that's almost 400 connecting passengers for United.. better than 180 in a 757.