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JAL/ANA 747 Classic Aircraft & JAL DC-10  
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2424 times:

JAL and ANA really love their old 747s and JAL has kept their DC-10s for a long time. One example that comes to mind is the only existing 747-100 EUD operated by JAL. As an enthusiast, I think it is great that they keep these aircraft around. I have wondered though why they do it from a business perspective? JAL and ANA have long been protected by the government. Air fares were until relatively recently, government controlled. The airlines could have persuaded the government rather easily that they needed to keep their fleet updated and thus needed to keep fares high. I think Japanese carriers also have low capital costs so they could get the financing without a problem. Even most US carriers which tend to push aircraft towards the end of their service lives have dumped most of DC-10,L1011, and 747 classic aircraft in service. (Of course, I know NWA still flies 10s and 742s). Further, a lot carriers in the region have all nearly new fleets- KE, OZ, SQ, TG, MH and so on.

I suspect that airplane enthusiasts have some role in the decision to keep these planes in service for as long as they have. I know these planes are paid for. But it seems that maintenance and fuel savings from new aircraft would have offset that advantage. Does anyone know or have a guess that is better than mine?

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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4785 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

Maintenance wise, one can only speculate that they are one of the safest and the best after 1985. From the 70s to the mid-80s, JAL had one of the worst safety records around. They have lost several DC8s and several incidents with the 747... all leading up to the finale in August 1985, the crash of JL123, a domestic configured 747-200. With that configuration meant 500+++ deaths making it the highest number of death in a single crash.

The cause of it was a maintaenance flaw in the rear pressure dome, causing it to fail. The escaping air rushed out through the back of the aircraft and up the ver stabs. The caused the ver stabs and the APU to break away from the aircraft and it severed hydraulic lines as well, rendering the flight controls useless.

They have not had a crash since.

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User currently offlineFlight Level From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

I suspect that airplane enthusiasts have some role in the decision to keep these planes in service for as long as they have.

Do you really think this? I beg to differ.

User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Let me clarify, I mean managers in the company who are not in a hurry to see the older jets go. Those are the airplane enthusiasts to who I am referring.

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