Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2595 times:
Sorry, Due to correcting a typing mistake I overtyped a word completely in the penultimate sentance, which should read;
I also of course understand that for the Germans the loss of Condor to a British brand somewhat equates to the loss of Britannia to a German one!
Teach me to check again after I've corrected something!
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2466 times:
Man I guess that Aviation is getting stranger every day...
Condor has been a proud German Charter airline since it was founded in the 50's and now they mess it up with such an ugly livery... At least the titles suck. But I guess that we in Europe will just have to live with it... first they took away our precious currency and now they are messing up our airlines... what's next?
SQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2454 times:
First they give us that ugly Hapag Lloyd livery and now?
Thomas Cook what a nice name for an Airline!
This is disgusting.
I heard that a lot of Pilots try to move away from Thomas cook and come back to LH.
I can't understand the decision to repaint all ACs. I mean Condor was a name! Guarantee for safety and friendly crews. The small Sticker on the nose of some Condor ACs is enough, they should keep the Condor livery!
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2435 times:
I agree with Max and Bjoern. It seems to me that all the travel companies want their own airline. It all started with the ST 737`s in TUI and Tjaerborg livery. Now we have lost HF (TUI) and DE (Thomas Cook). Maybe LT is the next, unfortunately!
Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2427 times:
I love the livery. But it's a stupid move to drop the airline name CONDOR. Germany is not the UK, where Caledonian and Flying Colours become JMC, and a few years later Thomas Cook; Airtours becomes MyTravel - British passengers don't seem to mind. German tourists however are very hesitating to fly any charter airline whose name they haven't heard before. In fact there were only three airlines a typical German tourist would fly without hesitating: Condor, LTU and Hapag-Lloyd. Even when they fly with quality airlines like Aero Lloyd, Germania or Air Berlin, if they haven't heard the name of the airline before, they think it's a cheap unsafe airline. When I worked for flyFTI, how often did I hear the question "How old is this aircraft?", a question I don't hear very often when working at the check-in for Hapag-Lloyd or LTU flights. They simply trust in those three airlines: Condor, Hapag-Lloyd, LTU. After the Birgenair crash, there was a policy among many German tourists "If you haven't heard the name of the airline before, don't fly with that airline", and many passengers still don't want to fly with an airline whose name they never heard before.
Com3205 From Vatican City, joined Jul 2001, 69 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
It looks nice and you will see them and hear them on the frequency all around the world. Thomas Cook = 85 aircraft. And for the pilots leaving, they're afraid they're going to lose their Lufth. contract and seniority if Lufth. gets out of Thomas Cook.
D-aqui From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2250 times:
Trading in the well-established and trusted Condor-brand for an idea that must have been bred in a marketing think-tank that has gone mad - I detest the new name and livery.
Let's see what reverberations the decision to drop Condor will have on the German market.
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
I´m really interested how they´re going to market this new stuff.
I find the livery per se OK, but I question the approach of dropping the Condor brand. But, I´m not yet sure to what extent it will be dropped after all:
- Condor Flugdienst GmbH will continue to exist.
- "powered by Condor" makes quite clear who is in charge of the a/c actual ops. Quite like the "Operated by Augsburg Airways/Cirrus Airlines/Contact Air etc." stickers on the Team LH planes.
- The flights will continue to operate under DE flight number.
There´s still hope.
P.S.: As a sickbag collector, I hope they do away with those boring LH bags on DE planes.
Anyone know what´s going to happen to Condor Berlin, a 100% subsidiary of Condor?