Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1839 times:
Just thought I'd draw your attention to this...
The first photo on airliners.net of Condor's B767-330 ER D-ABUZ, which is photographed after rollout in the new Thomas Cook - powered by Condor livery.
I actually like it better than the Condor scheme, but the Thomas Cook titles look a little lost on the side of the fuselage windowline, they could do with being larger and bolder.
I also of course that for the Germans the loss of Condor to a British brand somewhat equates to the loss of Britannia to a German one!
NB: The "Large" version of this photo is 1600x1212, so unless you want to wait a while for it to load, click the medium
Lubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
Skymileman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1789 times:
I heard that condor was just causing a loss of income to its parent company, Lufthansa, and they decided to sell it so that they could get back in the black
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1773 times:
Sorry, Due to correcting a typing mistake I overtyped a word completely in the penultimate sentance, which should read;
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I also of course understand that for the Germans the loss of Condor to a British brand somewhat equates to the loss of Britannia to a German one!
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Teach me to check again after I've corrected something!
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1737 times:
Andie,
will you be there tonight? I was thinking the whole day if I drive to DUS to watch the plane but now I decided not to go because I have to get up early tomorrow Morning.
Andie007 From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 848 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1711 times:
No, I'm not there. I have to do a lot of stuff for the university.
Moreover, the obervation deck will cose on 9pm. So you can't see the departure on it...
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 18 Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1644 times:
Man I guess that Aviation is getting stranger every day...
Condor has been a proud German Charter airline since it was founded in the 50's and now they mess it up with such an ugly livery... At least the titles suck. But I guess that we in Europe will just have to live with it... first they took away our precious currency and now they are messing up our airlines... what's next?
SQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1437 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
Ugly!
First they give us that ugly Hapag Lloyd livery and now?
Thomas Cook what a nice name for an Airline!
This is disgusting.
I heard that a lot of Pilots try to move away from Thomas cook and come back to LH.
I can't understand the decision to repaint all ACs. I mean Condor was a name! Guarantee for safety and friendly crews. The small Sticker on the nose of some Condor ACs is enough, they should keep the Condor livery!
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1613 times:
I agree with Max and Bjoern. It seems to me that all the travel companies want their own airline. It all started with the ST 737`s in TUI and Tjaerborg livery. Now we have lost HF (TUI) and DE (Thomas Cook). Maybe LT is the next, unfortunately!
Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2895 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1605 times:
I love the livery. But it's a stupid move to drop the airline name CONDOR. Germany is not the UK, where Caledonian and Flying Colours become JMC, and a few years later Thomas Cook; Airtours becomes MyTravel - British passengers don't seem to mind. German tourists however are very hesitating to fly any charter airline whose name they haven't heard before. In fact there were only three airlines a typical German tourist would fly without hesitating: Condor, LTU and Hapag-Lloyd. Even when they fly with quality airlines like Aero Lloyd, Germania or Air Berlin, if they haven't heard the name of the airline before, they think it's a cheap unsafe airline. When I worked for flyFTI, how often did I hear the question "How old is this aircraft?", a question I don't hear very often when working at the check-in for Hapag-Lloyd or LTU flights. They simply trust in those three airlines: Condor, Hapag-Lloyd, LTU. After the Birgenair crash, there was a policy among many German tourists "If you haven't heard the name of the airline before, don't fly with that airline", and many passengers still don't want to fly with an airline whose name they never heard before.
Baec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1538 times:
Is Thomas Cook Airline really Condor Airlines as said on the fuelage below the tail...? And will Thomas Cook Airline comes to DFW as a new service, or do they need an alliance....?
Lubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1528 times:
don't get me wrong- it looks very nice. but i love condor
Com3205 From Vatican City, joined Jul 2001, 69 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1490 times:
It looks nice and you will see them and hear them on the frequency all around the world. Thomas Cook = 85 aircraft. And for the pilots leaving, they're afraid they're going to lose their Lufth. contract and seniority if Lufth. gets out of Thomas Cook.
D-aqui From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 199 posts, RR: 9 Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
Trading in the well-established and trusted Condor-brand for an idea that must have been bred in a marketing think-tank that has gone mad - I detest the new name and livery.
Yuck!
Let's see what reverberations the decision to drop Condor will have on the German market.
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1391 times:
I´m really interested how they´re going to market this new stuff.
I find the livery per se OK, but I question the approach of dropping the Condor brand. But, I´m not yet sure to what extent it will be dropped after all:
- Condor Flugdienst GmbH will continue to exist.
- "powered by Condor" makes quite clear who is in charge of the a/c actual ops. Quite like the "Operated by Augsburg Airways/Cirrus Airlines/Contact Air etc." stickers on the Team LH planes.
- The flights will continue to operate under DE flight number.
There´s still hope.
Daniel
P.S.: As a sickbag collector, I hope they do away with those boring LH bags on DE planes.
Anyone know what´s going to happen to Condor Berlin, a 100% subsidiary of Condor?
BBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1316 times:
Just have to say no! I hope that I will still manage to fly Condor... in an aircraft with a full Condor livery.
25 Ts-ior: Well,i have to say that it is a pity to see the beautiful yellow tail to disappear,but any way,what can we do...it is globalization !!! I think the 7
26 Patroni: Seriously I still have problems to understand why to sacrifice such a well established brand like Condor for a new identity which the average travelli