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User currently offlineCactuscmh From United States of America, joined May 2001, 102 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

I wonder if any Asian airlines, such as CX or SQ hire Caucasian flight attendants? What if a Caucasian who can speak the local language and fullfil all the requirements, applys for the job, does the airline have the right to reject the applicant simply because s/he is not Asian?



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User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

In Asia, unlike the US, employers can reject an applicant simply by the fact that he/she does not have the right colour, shape, image for the job. So, even if a caucasian speaks the language, but doesn't look Asian, she will still be rejected. Hope this helps. And yes, I believe the airline has the right to do so...


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User currently offlineQatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

Not all airlines in Asia are like that. I can think of several examples: Qatar Airways, Kuwait Airways, Emirates Airlines and Gulf Air. They are all Asian airlines and all employ Caucasian F/A's

User currently offlineCactuscmh From United States of America, joined May 2001, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

Thanks for your response, SQ772 and QatarAirways.
QatarAirways: Yes, I know that Middle Eastern airlines employ foreign FAs. They do that because they don't have any choice. From what I understand about Middle Eastern countries (please correct me if I am wrong), women are not allowed to work. Also, I have read that many Middle Eastern countries are very wealthy. Many local citizens don't need to work and still have a very comfortable life.
This is a different situation from CX or SQ.


User currently offlineQatarAirways From Qatar, joined Sep 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

Cactuscmh,

Middle Eastern women are allowed to work, you might be mistaken us with Afghanistan under the Taliban rule. Also only the Gulf countries can be considered wealthy and a common mis-conception is that many people can live comfortably without work but that is not the case here although in most of the Gulf their are generous well-fare programs.


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

I just flew on Asiana from LAX to Seoul this past May 26th. and on the flight there was a US born flight attendant.......don't know if she spoke Korean, but she seem to tend mostly to the needs of caucassian passengers.


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User currently offlinePacificflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

I've seen with THAI, caucasian are allowed to work for the company weaing the distinguished purple uniform but I guess can only work on the ground, such as the ticketing counter at foreign airports, but I don't think they can fly!

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3321 times:

I've seen European crew onboard All Nippon airways flights. Never seen them on any other flight with an Asian carrier, except for Air Mauritius (but they are not really Asian IMO).


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User currently offlineAsianaAirlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Marcus, how was your flight on Asiana?

User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

According to the original post, cactusmh asked about SQ and CX...

SQ and CX do not hire caucasian FAs because of the Asian image they want to portray. I believe MH,GA, PR etc also do not recruit caucasian FA on a regular basis. Some of the above airlines provide foreign crew because of their ability to speak route specific languages...but these FAs tend to be Asian looking as well.

In contrast, EK recruits FA from all over the world because it is marketing itself as the airline with crew who are able speak almost all the major languages of the world.

I suppose some of you are right, there are caucasian crew on OZ, JL, NH because of their ability to speak certain languages. This is unlike UA or other American carriers where FAs are recruited based on their suitability for the job, and not based on their race and image.



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

Royal Brunei Airlines only hires f/a's from Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand. I think it's ok because they want to transmit a Southeastern Asian flavor on their product .
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User currently offlineAgmyvr From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

CX does hv a Caucasian crew base in YVR, and she has been with CX nearly four years and mainly operate YVR/HKG and YVR/JFK flights, and she speaks Jpnese too......oh I think I hv post this on another thread.....anyway

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

Airlines like Japan Airlines, they have Caucasian FA based at LHR and FRA for their Europe-Japan-Australia flights. You get a basic Japanese course and training...

Also with Malaysia Airlines I have seen caucasian FA but on Domestic flights only so far. You have to speak Malay I think...



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User currently offlineAgmyvr From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

ooops hvn't finished yet....

she doen't look like an Asian but looks absolute alright with the CX Purple uniform and actually she's a Senior Purser..... Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineFlyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 318 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

Aren't there a good number of Aussies working for Asian carriers? I believe JAL and perhaps even Cathay hire them for their language (and their blonde-haired, blue-eyed looks?!). One of my fellow United Flight Attendants did work for Asiana for a short period. She wore the same candy-striped uniform and was trained in Seoul. I believe she mastered at least a few basic Korean phrases, but she was indeed onboard for the "image" and for the benefit of the English-speakers. I don't know of any Asian carriers currently employing U.S. Flight Attendants, though.

User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Swissgabe, are you sure you saw a caucasian FA on MH, and not a fair skin Indian or Malay? Some of them do have features and can easily be mistaken for a caucasian. Anyone can confirm if MH, CX actually employ caucasians as FA?




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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

No, for long time MAS policy was it to hire only Malaysians as Cabin Crew. They changed it a few years ago but it is still very restricted, Flight Deck crew is only Malaysian as far as I know...


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User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

Cool, I learn something new everyday  Wink/being sarcastic


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User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3187 times:

Are you sure about caucasian f/a at CX or were they just ground staff?


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3149 times:

Excuse me? Caucasian FA in MAS? I beg to differ... you could have seen the crew from Virgin Atlantic because they share cabin crew on their LHR-KUL-SYD runs.


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3149 times:

Ryanair!!!
I'm talking about a domestic flight, I think it was KUL-TGG. It is only possible since around 1 year and MAS has just a few of them as they have Japanese, Korean and Chinese FA.

Thanks anyway, I never flew on Virgin or on a MAS/Virgin Codeshare flight...



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3144 times:

You'd be surprised at the amount of Eurasians in Malaysia. Look at their celebs, start counting how many has some Caucasian parentage of some sort. Especially those with English and Portugese ancestry. Some of them look really white! So this is probably where the Caucasian FAs stems from.


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3144 times:

It could be on this partical one but as far as I have been advised there are Caucasians flying there. If not I would have been informed wrong by the HR Department at KUL...


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3131 times:

Ooops, if you were informed by the HR, then it could mean that I do not know MAS as well as I think I do! But it has taken me by surprised though. Malaysians are very proud of their ethnic diversity and you would never see a Causcasian on TV advertising for a product! Well, then again... I guess I do not know MAS that well after all!

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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

Ryanair!!!
I know what you are talking about but since they hired already Japanese, Chinese and Koreans I don't see a difference of Caucasians. But as I said earlier, I think they have to speak perfect Bahsa Malaysia and I don't think they are looking out especially for Caucasian FAs.
That what you said goes for all Asian Airlines I think, also with JAL you never would see a Caucasian FA in any advertising...



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25 Airpearl : TG has Caucasians as cabin crew. I flew on a BKK-KUL flight last month with a male Caucasian FA onboard. It was quite a surprise for me - and I had o
26 Marcus : No no no no......the FA in the OZ flight I took was wearing the full OZ caramel candy uniform........I did not hear her speak Korean but most of the A
27 Agmyvr : SQ772/Cathay Pacific This is my 3rd time to assure you that CX does have a Caucasian Crew BASE IN YVR, and she has been working for nearly 4 years, an
28 Swissgabe : The problem with Caucasians at Asian airlines is not that their collegues would work better but I think it is always the problem to be accepted by Asi
29 Post contains images Agmyvr : Maybe this is the reason why she is hired by CX for their YVR/HKG/YVR and YVR/JFK/YVR serving those Canadian(Caucasian) passengers. Anyway I just want
30 CXCPA : CX employs do not care the nationality of their staff. They just care the productivity of the staff.
31 Marco : I have two friends who work for Emirates. Emirates is very selective about recruiting F/A's. Nationality doesn't matter, but they do go after caucasia
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