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747 Extremely Low Over HKG  
User currently offlineD-AIGW From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 261 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3540 times:

A few minutes ago at 00:25 a 747 passed VERY low (I estimate that to be below 1000ft) over Discovery Bay, very close to the mountains. It was doing full thrust, and must have turned way too early.

I tuned into radar (123.8) and heard something about Springboard 287, the conversation involved "terrain area", and the pilot saying "Thanks for the details, thanks for your help." Does anybody know what the anomaly is?

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User currently offlineDcy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

Could it be SAA (callsign Springbock)?

dcy.


User currently offlineDcy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

Yeah. Seems to fit.

SAA287 departs Hong Kong at 23.50 local time for Johannesburg.

dcy.


User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

you mean SAA= South African Airways? I though their callsign is simply" South African"...

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

"Springbok" is the callsign for SAA on ATC.



-NWA742


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12432 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

Quite apart from the callsign, this is the second time in a relatively short space of time that aircraft have (apparently) been very close to high ground near the airport. Wasn't there a JAL DC10 last month in a similar situation.

Surely the HK CAA will be looking into this incident; the last thing they want is a fatal CFIT accident. Are all the possible obstructions lit by beacons/warning lights; are the SID instructions sufficiently specific about the dangers of turning too early (if that's what caused the problem?)



User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

There was an Air France freighter crew that turned 2.2 miles BEFORE SMT VOR, instead of 2.2 miles AFTER it, putting it is danger of hitting the mountains. ATC provided vectors and everything was ok. ATC told them that they were naughty boys. I think it might have been in Flight.

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

1000 feet at DB, thats sounds good for one of those crappy -200's they have been flying for years !!

User currently offlineD-AIGW From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 261 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

Pretty sure it's that SAA (Springboard) plane here. Those engines were making the whole place noisy as hell. Guess somebody's gonna complain soon...

User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

You've got to admit though, Springboard would be a good callsign!!

I don't think HKGSpotter was being particularly anti-Boeing in that comment. He was merely referring to the fact that the 747-200s that SAA operate are rather old and it is about time they were replaced. (Yes I know there are Airbuses coming to replace them)


User currently offlineD-AIGW From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 261 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2751 times:

NWA742,

Just curious, but what exactly is a "Springbok"?


User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2739 times:

What else did you hear on your scanner D-AIGW?
Anything about an engine failure?
The scenario seems to fit!

A Springbok is a type of deer found in South Africa, sort of like an antelope.
Or if you live in NZ, it's a member of the South African rugby team, one of our greatest rivals.  Smile


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2720 times:

Isn't a SpringBok an animal similar to a buffalo?

User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2717 times:

Nah, it's a very small Gazelle.... Big thumbs up


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offline777kicksass From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

A springbok is a kind of deer found in SA.

By the way Discovery Bay is the coolest place!! I know one of the govenors there is really cool! I like the golf carts! Anyone else been?


User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2474 times:


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There's your "springbok" fellows! By the way, a real springbok doesnt have wings.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Are you sure they don't have wings ??

As for the 742's they fly in, I guess they can't be in the best of shape. All those hours on planes of that age. How many hours is it direct from Hong Kong to Jo'burg ??

Anyway, I can't wait to see the A346 later this year !!


User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

Jo'burg - Hong Kong will be the first route to be allocated to SAA's new A340-600's as they arrive in December this year.

The plan is for SAA to stop its 3x weekly Bangkok service in favour of a daily Hong Kong service.


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