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What's The Story Behind The PWA 737-300?  
User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

I happened to run across the following image. It is said to be a Pacific Western 737-300, C-FPWD, on approach to Toronto in February, 1987.

I've never heard of PWA operating any 737 model other than the 737-200, and the paint scheme is decidedly different. Given that it carried a Canadian registration, this aircraft must have served in PWA's network for a while.

Anybody know the story behind it?



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User currently offlineN80NA From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

the livery it wears says it's from MONARCH AIRLINES out of the UK !!!!
that's all i know


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4359 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

This 737-300 was leased from Monarch Airlines, an English charter airline, which had these cheatlines as seen on the picture. It was cn 23495 G-DHSW. Also in the following 2 winters, it was leased to Canadian Airlines International. It has been common practice, also between Air 2000 and Canada 3000, that British charter airplanes in the European slow winter season are leased out to Canadian airlines. This exact aircraft later was sold to Southwest Airlines and is now N664WN.
source : www.airlinerlist.com



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

According to my logs its a 737-2T7 (former G-DWHH), anybody know if this aircraft recieved new engines or something?

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

And also look at this picture: http://www.rob.clubkawasaki.com/jas2331.jpg


Confused...


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

PWA ordered a good number of 737-300 aircraft in the mid 1980s; after the merger with Canadian Pacific that formed Canadi
Sounds a bit odd, but remember this was back in the 1980s, before Stage III rules, etc, etc, and the 73S was a perfectably acceptable choice at the time and allowed the airline to raise some cash.......as for Canadi

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

Sorry, something strange happened to my post above.

I was concluding by saying that most of us know the difficult history of Canadian Airlines, its a shame, as Canadian Pacific was a leading name worldwide in transportation and Pacific Western was a pioneer in operating in the difficult and remote areas of the Canadian Northwest.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4359 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2734 times:

EGGD > As you could also find on www.airlinerlist.com, the regi C-FPWD is used for both a 737-200 and another frame, a 737-300. No re engineing upgrades of 737-200 to -300 have ever taken place (imagine what a rebuilt that must have been, adding fuselage plugs (as the -300 is longer), new undercarriage, change it's wings and tail).


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2729 times:

Dutchjet wrote: "Pacific Western was a pioneer in operating in the difficult and remote areas of the Canadian Northwest."

Until the advent of Canadian Airlines, Pacific Western had also been Canada's healthiest airline from a fiscal point of view. If it had grown sustainably, it would have become an increasingly national competitor to Air Canada in the '90s -- and a more fearsome one than the debt-laden Canadian Airlines.



User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Just months prior to the PWA merger with CP, PWA ordered 2 new 733 (not a 'good number'). This order was cancelled with the CP merger (CP already had 733's on order).

In 86/87, PWA did lease (for the winter) 733's from Monarch for charter services only. This lease arrangement continued with the CP merger with the above aircraft in 'Canadian' titles the following winter.

Neil





Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

I believe it had something to do with Pegasus, a business class carrier intended to run transcontinental flights (CP Air). But when the carriers merged they found no need for the 737-300.


Mark McWhirter...Contrails Photography
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

Pegasus was different. CP (just prior to the PWA merger) brought out an updated business class product using 2 of 3 newly delivered 733's with a special colour scheme. The product & aircraft were called 'Attache'. The Attache scheme was very similar to the soon-to-be brought out Canadian Pacific Air Lines scheme replacing the orange CP Air theme. Attache was short-lived. The 2 733's were sold soon after (along with the sole orange CP 733) and CP standardized on the 732 (before and after the PWA merger).

Clear as mud?

Regards
Neil



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6343 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

MSN 23495/LN 1260 737-3Y0 leased from Monarch from 11/11/86 to 4/27/87 and the next two winters by Canadi>n. Now with WN as N664WN.

No EGGD, no 737-200 has been, or will be, fitted with CFMs.



Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

Back in the mid-80's, ther was brief talk of offering a re-engined 732 with CFM's. It was coined the 737-250. But of course it never happened and the 735 was offered soon after.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
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