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Pilots: Most Challenging Approaches These Days  
User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2983 posts, RR: 23
Posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Eugdog has started a thread asking what the most spectaculat approaches are.
A while ago I asked the question on PPRUNE what fellow aviators nowadays considered their most challenging approaches, but it got moved to Jetblast and deviated onto matters totally immoral LOL  Wink/being sarcastic
So, let's try this forum and ask the same question.

Commercial drivers, list the most challenging (or rewarding) approaches you fly/have flown which can still be flown today.

Here are mine, not too impressive, as my experience is limited to the Med., Europe, parts of Africa, oh and 2 airports in the US ! :

1. Corfu, night, mist
2. Skiathos anytime
3. Madeira nasty windshear
4. Innsbruck
5. Arrecife, runway 23 high ground on final
6. Nice, depending on wind and associated shear

Best jump-seat ride was a Varig 733 into Rio de Janeiro Santos Dumont....breathtaking on a scale able to change the colour of your pants !!  Big grin

Shamu





So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2983 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

EEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek, I meant Arrecife runway 21 !!!



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User currently offlineI LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

San Diego - Very Challenging as you are very close to the City Buildings etc.

Canarsie 13L at JFK - was sitting next to a UAL 744 Capt. one time on a flight He said it is almost as hard as the old Hong Kong APR.


User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

I've done the Canarsie 13L and R at JFK and they weren't all that bad. Just follow the lead-in lights!  Smile

What I think sucks is the River Visual 19 at DCA. The river is pretty narrow and if you veer too far off, you're going to get an airspace violation.

For some reason, all that "s-turns across a road" training that I did when I was working on my private really helps!

Plus, well, it's also handy to have the non-flying pilot call out your DME from the runway so you can maintain a 3:1 until you pick up the VASI a few miles out. Then you have to make another low descending turn, pick up an entirely different VASI and land on a short runway.

Add a crosswind or some inclement weather and it's a treat on one hand, but a terror on the other!  Smile Don't get me wrong, it's really fun actually getting to manuever the aircraft in such a fashion, but it's not for beginners.

On top of that, there are special security procedures that you've got to follow to a "T" else you're getting diverted to an alternate airport with a fully-armed F-16 flying in formation with you.

Doug Taylor
jetcareers.com


User currently offlineCFM-56 From Finland, joined Sep 2001, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Lugano! (Italy) anyday...  Big thumbs up

"In thrust we trust" CFM56


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Will reiterate Corfu for reasons mentioned. Never found Arrecife to be a big problem, only landed once on 21 and the high ground is daunting but probably looks closer than it is. Stick to the procedure and all is well.

I don't fly to JSI or INN, but am told they are a bit hair-raising as is JMK (Mykonos). Doing my training checkout for Madeira next month so will comment on completion!

Otherwise I find Kos (KGS) at night a bit rough, tunnel vision is pretty disorienting, poor runway lighting. Samos (SMI) is fun too. Dalaman is OK but at night the hills again can be daunting.

So many Greek Islands, so few ILS approaches  Insane. Ah well that's what makes this job so fun!



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Tegucigalpa, Honduras is known for being "sporty" as is Aspen, Colorado. I've flown both approaches, Aspen is the worst.

User currently offlineN766ua From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8308 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

What is the approach to DCA like now? Is it still following the potomac or is it a very quick base and a short final leg?


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User currently offlineTT737FO From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

>>>"What I think sucks is the River Visual 19 at DCA. The river is pretty narrow and if you veer too far off, you're going to get an airspace violation."

Concur!

Other difficult ones I have flown:

--Night trap on the America in the North Atlantic
--Pohang Korea
--El Toro during peak traffic hours (right next to John Wayne).
--Roaring Fork visual in Aspen--quite scenic, fun, and adventurous--in a MU2.
--Tivat Yugoslavia.


User currently offlineYeeha From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Perth International in summer when there is a strong easterly....ohhhh yeah baby!!!!!!...what a rush....

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

I've landed a plane myself at Airlake Airport in Lakeville, Minnesota.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I've landed in Airlake, Anoka County, and MSP. I'd say MSP was the easiest for some reason, got off the runway, to the GA parking, and was no where near the big jets so it was like being at a regular small airport, it was easy because the runway had a lot of feet in case I screwed up WHICH I DIDN'T!!! I'd have to say that was MY most challenging approach, Lakeville Airport, 10 PM, rain. I know that doesn't compare to the DCA approachs, etc, but hey, I'm a NEW pilot!

Continental


User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

VOR 13L/13R at JFK..... nothing hard about that approach. It's unusual but it certainly isn't hard to fly.

JET



User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Geneve is one of the easiest-you get 18 mile approaches at times!

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