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DC-9-10/-30 Operating Costs  
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

They're definitely old and rusty, but they sure are beautiful! How much does it cost to run one of these birds by the hour?

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L

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User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

DC-9-10

average is $2056

DC-9-30

Average is $2053


from Form 41 3Q 2001


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Thanks, Penguin! Do you happen to have the link to that page? I've searched for the past few months on bts.gov and through google.com, but have been unsuccessful in finding that page!

Thanks again!

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

Form 41 fillings can only be viewed in person in Washington DC, or from a 3rd party researcher/analyst/consultant that republishes the information for one reason or another. Aviation Daily (if you can get access to it) usually publishes this information.

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Hey any of you know the operation cost from the 717 and 737-8??

AM is planning to reduce costs so they said they wanted to get away all their DC9s from their fleet to get only either 717 or 737-8Ng.

Also can you please tell me the operation cost of the A319/320 and the B727, because MX is getting rid of the 727s and getting 319s.

Thx,

ghost77  Smile




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

Avg. Cost Per Hour/Cost Per Available Seat Mile (CASM)
717-200 - $2,009/6.1 cents
A319 - $1,866/3.9 cents
A320-200 - $2,496/4.4 cents
737-800 - $2,151/3.8 cents

The lower the CASM the generally longer routes that they are used on. And this can vary significantly depending on the length of the flights, with shorter flights usually having a much higher CASM. For example, most regional jets have CASMs that are in the double digits (varying from 8 to 18.8 cents per ASM), yet are ever increasing in number in the US because of their success and profitability.

All figures from US airline's 3Q2001 FOrm 41 fillings.


User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

Almost forgot:

727-200 - $3,412/6.6 cents


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Asqx

Thank You very mucho for your ansear!!!

Really apreciated  Big thumbs up

ghost77  Smile




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Thanks again, Penguin! Do you think it would be possible to get a copy of that whole list from you via e-mail? (if not--what would the MD-80 family go for per hour?)

Thanks so much!

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineDouglas DC 8 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2001, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

Asqx, could you tell me the operating costs of the DC 8-50's,-60',-70's and of the B707, please?

User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Sorry, but I don't have info on any DC-8s or 707s, partly because there are no part 121 operators in the US that are using them for passenger service.

User currently offlineKFRG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

How about cost of large widebody's, such as the B767-300(ER)/-400ER and the A330-300, and the B777.

They must be around 3 or even 4G's?

-Tom


User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

Avg. hourly costs/CASM

767-300:
$3,928/4.2 cents

767-400:
$2,983/2.5 cents

A330-300:
$5,201/4.1 cents

777-200:$4,880/3.8 cents

747-400:$8.161/4.4 cents


User currently offlineYoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

I don't understand... how could a 763 cost $1,000 more per hour than a 764? Furthermore, how could a 777 cost more than an A330? Can someone please hook me up with some info? Thx.

User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Much of the difference in 763 and 764 costs are crew costs and the fact that since most 764s are still under warrenty, they have far lower maintenance costs.

The fact that USAirways A330s (the only airline that operates the A330 for which I have data) are more expensive per hour should be no surprise. Their hourly crew costs are almost doube the most expensice 777 crew costs (United, BTW). And when it costs you about $1,500 more per hour for your crew, well, you get the picture...


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6844 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

I can give you a wet lease ACMI cost. (all US $)
Aircraft Crew Maintenance Insurance, no fuel.

DC9-30 US$950 - USD1200 per hour
717-200 $1950 - 3000 per hour
B737-200 $1050 - 1400 per hour
B737-300 $1750 - $2750 per hour
A319 & B737-700 $2000 - $3000 per hour
A320 $2500 - $3500 per hour

These are wet leases, price varies between age of aircraft, its history, expected utility, lessee experience and financial health, and length of contract.

Hope this helps

Mandala499



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