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User currently offlineOA277 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 76 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 895 times:

I just found out that OA is having a B733 with reg.no SX-BLB, although they had only one SX-BLA.
In their website it seems like they are having only one.
Apart from that I checkeds their european timetable, and they are having an aircraft with the description 73B.
They also have the 73M which are the one that belong to Macedonian airlines.
Does anybody know if they have leased another 733?
Thanks.
OA277

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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2397 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 891 times:

The aircraft was leased from Germania just a few days ago, it is c/n 25015 and was previously registered as D-AGEJ. I heard Olympic Airways would also lease the second of Germania's B737-300s (D-AGEK) to replace the B737-200s as soon as possible.


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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 855 times:

Good to hear that - flying the 732 (without hush-kits) despite the EU ban, that's simply a shame for an airline like OA, and it just shows the political influence of OA.
Three weeks ago I posted a question in this forum, when I checked their international timetable I found out that there are many flights operated by 733s, too many for one single SX-BLA. I hoped for more 717s (maybe ex-AA?) to replace the 732, but the 733 is okay, too.


User currently offline0A340 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 820 times:

Here it is, SX-BLB in the Snowhite livery:

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Photo © Philipp Brumann



So, the 73B is the code for this one?



User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 813 times:

The OA worldwide timetable summer 2002 refers to all 737-300 as 733. I don't know if there are any differences between SX-BLA and SX-BLB, like different number of seats. But I don't think so.

User currently offline0A340 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 809 times:

True, and I agree with you that there is no reason for different designation. However, the 73B Designation appeared only after the arrival of SX-BLB.
Could it be a temporary one to see where the new plane would fit in the schedule?
Interesting to see what will happen when the other ex-Germania 733 gets in. Whatever the outcome, truth is that OA badly needs at least 3 more to cover for the existing use of 3x 732s.
One thing is to shrink to adjust for falling demand/revenue and another is to shrink because the management is so incompetent that they were not able to account for the loss of substantial capacity that the 11x 732's represented.

just my 0.02 E


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 804 times:

They could have fitted the 732s with hush-kits at least. Living close to the airport I have to say that it hardly made any difference when LH started to fit their 732s with hush-kits, the 732 is loud with or without hush-kit. But at least OA would be officially *allowed* to keep on flying the 732. I'm sure if Aegean/Cronus had 732s, they would not get an exception of the rule.
Talking about falling demand: At least here in Germany, Olympic's biggest problem is the unsteadyness of demand. Beginning of the Easter holidays, hundreds of Greeks (who are living in Germany) want to travel from Germany to Greece, you could easily operate with A300. But only few people want to fly from Greece to Germany. Two weeks later, all the Greeks fly back to Germany, but the seats on the Germany-Greece flights remain empty. The same some weeks later for the Greek Easter holidays, Whitsun holidays, summer holidays, Christmas... the flights are always full in one direction, but totally empty in the other direction. But this just as a sidenote, sorry for getting a little off-topic


User currently offline0A340 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 784 times:

Ndebele -

Re: hushkits- do you think they come cheap? Not only they are not, but also you end up with old airframes (25+) that need extra service and are extra thirsty. The Germania 733 are 12-14 year old frames and have less operating costs...

I agree with your "unsteadiness of demand" observation. This is true for the non-business travel, call it the "low-end economy" that mostly feeds OA's flights. Only a true low-cost airline can survive this, not OA's highly expensive structure.

Steadier demand is achieved only through targeting the business traveler and getting into an alliance to pick up connecting feed. OA is seriously lacking these... Look at LH: they have 3 daily nonstop A300's in the Ath-Fra run during the summer versus a single 734 OA has (and one more thru SKG).


My 0.02 Euros





User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 764 times:

I didn't really suggest to install hush-kits now on OA's 732s. They should have done so in the early 90's when 732 hush-kits became available. I agree that additional 733s are probably a better decission. I know that OA is in financial trouble, but honestly, adding about three more 733s (leasing?) in order to finally replace the 732s - is OA's financial situation really *that* bad that they can't even afford this rather cheap way to replace three aircraft?

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