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2 Captains, 1 Plane: Is This Frequent?  
User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

Hi everyone, On January 26, I flew flt. 650 from GPT-ATL. On that flight, there were 2 four striped pilots (meaning they were both captains). Is this frequent? I double checked when I deplaned, and I saw the Left Seat dude with 4 stripes, and the right seat dude with 4 stripes. What gives?

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User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

Quite common.
Could be just the way it's been rostered or more likely, one of them is a Check Captain checking up on the other guy.  Smile


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12438 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1132 times:

NZ767 is quite correct; when a captain is being checked out - either as part of a regular line check, or when he/she is converting to a new aircraft, there will be a captain in the right seat.

I've had three occasions where this has happened - on a BD 733, an RG M11 and a CO 764, last year.


User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1125 times:

Thanks. I thought this was weird. So, Capt. Harry, Must have just transferred from the DC-9 to the 717. Wow, That kind of makes me feel special that my captain was a new captain.. Cool!!!!!

User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

Upgrading captains complete 25 hours of IOE (Initial Operating Experience) with a check airman (who is also a captain).


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

I was watching a show on an American Airlines 777 and it was the guys final landing. He wasin the left and another caption in the right. He was not being checked, If thwere is two captions on a flight, can they both do the landing, or is it normally a CAPt and a FO?


23 victor, turn right heading 210, maintain 3000 till established, cleared ILS runwy 24.
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

I know that sometimes two guys who are captains may end up flying together.. becasue that is how the roster has em.. but in every flight one person is the designated captain and is in charge of the flight.. even though both are certified and striped as captains


There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1072 times:

Yea, and on long hauls there is a second captain (a relief pilot), and I believe the 1st officer has to be type-rated in the aircraft as well.


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

It is not uncommon at all. Probably it was just some type of training. Initial operating experience or an annual line check. Additionally the right seat guy may just be a training department Captain out for a trip. Depending on senority they will sometimes fly copilot. And Training Captains (we call them Line Check Airman) also will accompany a Capatin into a difficult airport by way of introduction. Mexico City is one example.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 947 times:

It is also not uncommon when a new aircraft type enters the fleet. When AirTran first started flying the 717, the flight crews were both Captains. After a few months, the first of the 717 F.O.s started to replace those Captains that were seated in the right seat. I believe Frontier is doing the same thing with the A319s. It does make sense, because wouldn't you rather have your Captain having more flight hours on a new aircraft type than the First Officer?

User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 630 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 875 times:

Does anybody knows what training it takes to be the relief captain?


Live life to max!!!
User currently offlineJettblasterp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 203 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 837 times:

Or, more likely, it is because lots of F/Os have been laid off and captians have been demoted to F/O but still wear the same uniform.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 817 times:

Jettblasterp. That very well could be. I will guess from all of these which one it was, but the dude in the right seat was pretty old, while the dude in the left seat was pretty young.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 788 times:

AirTran has not laid off any pilots AFAIK, so the seniority shuffle is unlikely. There are plenty of reasons for a 4-striper to fly rightseat though.

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