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737 Rudder Valve Maker, Boeing Found Liable  
User currently offlineGoallegheny From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 340 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

Yesterday (Friday) in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a federal court jury found 737 rudder valve maker Parker Hannefin 75% liable and Boeing 25% liable for the USAir Flight 427 crash outside of Pittsburgh several years ago. The jury rejected the defense arguments that the USAir pilots were at fault for not reacting quickly enough to wake vortex.

http://www.post-gazette.com/businessnews/20020629usairruling0629p3.asp

Here's an excerpt from the article describing the defense lawyer's actions:

Silane spent a lot of his time in court attacking the pilots' actions in the cockpit, describing them as complacent and inattentive before the plane hit the vortex and then saying they did all the wrong things afterward.

"The only real defense [by US Airways' experts] is that, 'A pilot would never do that,' " he said in his closing argument. "We all know that pilots are human. They make mistakes."

Yesterday he said, "I have no interest in saying anything bad about the pilots. In a courtroom I have to defend my client."

He also insisted that Parker-Hannifin's valve was not defective.

"I'll tell you one thing, the valve didn't jam," he said. "I don't think there's any question that the valve did not jam."


My only comment is bullsh-t.

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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

I wonder if this would be brought up in the Silkair MI185 crash of the 737-300 in Palembang as well? The rudder issue was speculated as well during the hearing.


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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

As usual, an idiot jury has decided to punish the "evil corporations" and try to cause them financial harm. Something tells me it will be a cold day in hell before Boeing even speaks to USAirways again. First USAirways breaks their contract with Boeing (For which Boeing sued and won) and now this crap.


Shakespeare was right when he said "Kill all the lawyers". Well, @ least all the trial lawyers.



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2339 times:
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And what about the UA 737 crash on Colorado springs? was the rudder to blame there aswell?




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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

My only comment is bullsh-t.

Looks like that's exactly what the court thought, too.  Smile

Pete


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

>>>I wonder if this would be brought up in the Silkair MI185 crash of the 737-300 in Palembang as well? The rudder issue was speculated as well during the hearing.

If so, it still wouldn't explain the circuit breakers for the CVR and FDR getting pulled, minutes apart (presumably, when the captain left/re-entered the cockpit), all prior to the aircraft's plunge.




User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2293 times:



Yeah, lets just blame everything on the poor sods demanding justice, and throw darts at juries. Grow up. Boeing will speak to anyone who buys planes from them. Aircraft manufacturers have been sued by airlines and plaintiffs representing the survivors of victims before and that has no bearing on who they will do business with post-verdict.





User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

None of the science brought forth thus far has offered any rational proof that either crash aircraft suffered an uncommanded hardover.

Something about juries- they are much more likely to find a faceless corporation liable, rather than individuals (such as pilots). Simple (and understandable) human nature.



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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

According to the article I read, Boeing was found 25% liable and the supplier was found 75% liable. Boeing won't be shelling out money because they settled with the families years ago. Feel free to correct this it's wrong.


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