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757's Are They Back To Dca?  
User currently offlineHamad From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2311 times:

i was spotting today from my window, as i live in Mclean, VA and i saw a plane that is too long to be an A320 descending over the potomac river toward National airport to land Via Rwy 19 i guess. now the plane was too long to be an A320, i think that it either be a USA321 or a 757.

any help here?

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User currently offlineYyz717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2289 times:

National will shortly (or has very recently) recommence(d) DCA ops. They only operate 752's.



User currently offlineHamad From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

thanks yyz
any more information?


User currently offlineBpat777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

As of July AA has two daily 757 flts into DCA...Hopefully DL, US and NW will follow soon...

User currently offlineDeltaRules From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

I thought they weren't allowed to fly 757s into DCA after 9/11. Has this changed?

Also, I thought DCA was only allowed to have flights within a certain radius. I know National went in there when I was there last year, and I saw a LAS-DCA flight while I was in Vegas, but was there a radius & has this been changed?

Anyway, great to see DCA getting 757s again!

DeltaRules


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

I don't think there are any radius restrictions. US operates a non-stop flight to and from Orlando (MCO) on a A319. Also, I would think that if National Airlines flies into DCA, then there would be no more 757 restrictions. And, as mentioned above, AA has resumed 757 service as of July.

Now that I think about it, I can find no legitimate reason why 757's were not allowed into DCA anyway. Would Pentagon workers get uncomfortable seeing a 757 on approach or departure? Who knows...


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Why are 757s banned?

If its because it was used on 9-11 for the Pentagon, then thats rediculous. An A320 or 737-800 could do a lot of damage too.

its rediculous that an aircraft type is banned for that reason.


User currently offlineAF777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

The 757 was banned because all aircraft that seat more than (I believe) 159 pax were not allowed to fly to DCA post 9-11. It has nothing to do with the fact that one was used to hit the Pentagon.

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

Even so, it is foolish to ban airplanes that carry more than 159 passengers. 159 is just some arbitrary number. There's no reason for it. Passenger count doesn't affect the potential damage a fully-fueled airplane can inflict on a building when used as a missle.

Were there any restrictions at LaGuardia? I can think of none. LaGuardia is just miles from Manhattan, and receives aircraft as big as 764's.


User currently offlineAF777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

I agree, I am not sure what their rationale was except that perhaps they wanted to limit the total number of passengers going through DCA and through security, and keeping the equip. size smaller is one way to do that

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

159 was a number that Arizona senator John McCain pushed for to protect his beloved hometown airline America West's market share into DCA by excluding the 757 operators (think National).

User currently offlineCedarjet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Jesus America, you really need better leadership. You don't deserve any of this, from 9/11 onwards.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

The National flight is one of 6 that can operate beyond the 1250 mile perimeter rule DCA has. These special slots were awarded about 2 years ago. The other airlines in this are:

America West(2x PHX, 1x LAS)
Alaska(1x SEA)(Used to be used by TWA to LAX, AA had to give it up when TWA was purchased)
Frontier(1x DEN).

Notice how America West received three of the 6 slots. Also notice that John McCain pushed for those slots. Who wants to make a bet that if McCain becomes president, a bill will be made saying any american airlines with the letters H and P in their codes are exempt from paying landing fees?


User currently offlineBA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Frontier is trying to get a 3rd and 4th slot to start a 2nd round-trip to DCA from DEN.

I doubt they'll get it though.

Regards


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

I hope Frontier gets those slots. The more, the better, the sooner aviation in America returns to normal.

User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

I finally saw a 757 yesterday at DCA. It was an AA aircraft and arrived between 4 and 5 pm.

User currently offlineJapanguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

UA has put the 757 back on the schedule for some DCA-ORD flights during peak times. Starting this month.

User currently offlineOzarkD9S From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Don't bust McCain's chops over the HP slots, he was doing what he was elected to do...getting good things for his home state. HP is a major employer in AZ and trust me, he's not the only person in DC pushing his home state's economy.

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