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QF Frequent Flyer, Or UA Mileage Plus?  
User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 501 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

I'm currently indecisive on which frequnet flyer program to join. Even though I am an American living in the US, I chose QF as 'my oneworld option' because I could fly AA domestic and BA transatlantic. A couple questions on QF FF. Do you have to be a resident of Australia? Do you have to fly on an actual QF flight every so often? If not, the way I look at it is that in college I plan of going to Australia. I could fly AA from JFK-LAX, then QF to SYD on a A380 (that's what it will be when I go). It seems that OneWorld has control of the south east Asia markets, and on my breaks, I would plan on visiting this area along with Australia domestically. Let me just break it down on every possible spot I would want to visit in college, and flight routes.

HKG-BKK and/or KUL
-and then-
ROC-JFK (most likely Amtrak)

It seems that OneWorld has Asia, and Star has good control of Europe (except BA, which is huge). The one thing i like about UA is College Plus. i could get the credit card, and recieve special benefits. Is this worth it, or should i stick with One World. Thanks for reading my very un-organized post, and looking foward to your replies.


P.S.-If I join UA Mileage Plus, could I later join UA college Plus and have my other miles transfered, since it would be the same name?

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User currently offlineJesseycy From New Zealand, joined Aug 2001, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

I would say go with QF frequent flyer, or any oneWorld partner's programs.... Simply because in your "planned trips", your long haul flights, like LAX-SYD, and SYD-HKG, are all mainly served by oneworld airlines! Those two flights alone will get you heaps of miles!

But if you like "College Plus" so much, what you should do is get QF frequent flyer, get the miles, so you won't miss out on that free flight, and get the miles!

User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1806 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

Either would be fine though UA is more generous in Status benefits and upgrades than QF.

User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3142 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

With Star remember that United is big into Asia. There is also ANA, Thai, Singapore, and Asiana (soon to join) which covers Asia. In Europe there are a lot more companies than in Asia, but many tend to be smaller such as the Austrian Group, BMI, and so on.

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User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

With the QF FF, do I have to be an Australian Resident? Also, do I have to fly on one of their flights every so often?


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9504 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

Either would be fine though UA is more generous in Status benefits and upgrades than QF.

True. UA is ALWAYS more generous in status benefits and upgrades than any of OneWorld Members like Cathay Pacific. Group tickets are not eligable for Mileage at CX but UA.

User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

The QF plan costs, the UA plan is free.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9504 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

The QF plan costs yes it does.

User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Go for UA. Your College Plus number will be the same as your Mileage Plus number... and you get 10,000 miles upon graduation when you send them your transcript.

User currently offlineJesseycy From New Zealand, joined Aug 2001, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

OK, it's time to help oneWorld a bit here! Guys, don't forget that on most of his routes (look at his list!), quite a lot of them are mainly serviced by oneWorld airlines! And if he wants to go direct, then he'll fly on them!

But I really don't get what this ruckus is about? Can't Alitalia777 just get both? Get membership of the two alliances! Rack in all the miles!

User currently offlineAl From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

If you're based in the USA, I'd go with UA. Far better accruals, status and redemption possibilities than QF, not to mention it's free. It's turning out to be pretty darn hard to get redemption seats on QF on many routings these days as something like 90% of the country flies with them now. I'd also check the redemption and accrual status with QF in relation to AA and ensure that it's 100% on both with no restrictions or weird rulings relating to another partner carrier. (UA's *status* accrues on any Star partner for example - make sure flying AA gets you status on QF as well as the miles etc).
Not quite sure why you think oneworld is the dominant alliance in SE Asia - far from it IMHO. SQ and TG are with Star and MH is closely aligned with Wings. In the far east Star has ANA and soon Asiana as well, where oneworld has CX, which is it's only carrier based in the entire region. UA also have a very large intra-Asia presence as well with their long held fifth freedom traffic rights, mainly through Japan but also I think I've read Hong Kong as well soon. The itinerary you suggested is more than workable on both alliances - and is probably better on Star truth be told. With oneworld, you would need to backtrack from Kuala Lumpur to Hong Kong, then down to Sydney or Melbourne, then across to Perth, as QF offers no service to KUL. With Star, it's a shuttle on SQ to Singapore then one of 3 flights Singapore to Perth with SQ. UA's code with VirginBlue should be by then extended to nearly all of their flights so if you can alter the routing slightly, your backtracking is far less with Star than it will be with oneworld if you enter Oz in SYD and use the UA code on DJ flights to get around Oz and to PER, then continue into SE Asia on SQ and TG (PER SIN KUL BKK) over to HKG, then onto Europe with SK LH or OS.
I also think Star can give you much more in the way of options from your home market as well in future years - UA AC MX "domestically" [or North Americanly if you prefer  Smile/happy/getting dizzy], NZ LH SK OS SQ UA BM transatlantic and NZ UA SQ NH TG OZ RG over the Pacific.
As always - read the fine print of the programs you are comparing. Some nasty little surprises in there at times. With the reach of the alliances these days you can basically get anywhere you want on them, albeit with backtracking involved on most of them. I don't like how big Star has become, but for coverage and options, as well as less backtracking because of the range of carriers, they are very hard to beat for frequent world travels. More so with UA's generous (in comparison to Euro, Asian, Oz schemes) Mileage+ FF scheme.

User currently offlineThe rock From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2698 times:


ROC-JFK can be flown by Jetblue on their beautiful A320's
about 4 or 5 flights daily.

What brings you to ROC?

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