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El Al Plane Missed By A Missile Over Ukraine  
User currently offlineTurin_airport From Italy, joined Oct 2001, 277 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1038 times:

According to the Italian newspapers la Repubblica and La Stampa, last night an El Al plane from TelAviv to Moscow avoided a missile that exploded not so far right of the plane. The commander, with a long experience as military pilot, reported what he saw on the radio and then again when the plane landed in Moscow.
The Israeli minister for transports, Efraim Sneh, confirmed the pilot version, while the Ukraine minister of defense denied.
Who tells the truth? I think we all remember what is happened to a plane (a TU154) on the same flight months ago...

T_a

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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Should we stop flying in the USA and Europe !!

User currently offlineBkkair From Thailand, joined Aug 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 978 times:

Turin Airport - did the Italian newspapers say it was a military missile or someone else firing it?

I think the Ukraine admitted their military shot down that other plane over the Black Sea last year?

Things are really getting crazy lately.




User currently offlineTurin_airport From Italy, joined Oct 2001, 277 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 946 times:

Bkkair - they are talking about a missile that exploded near the plane. If I'm not wrong Ukraine admitted one of their missile shot down the TU154, but only when the evidences were too clear to deny...
BTW, some weeks ago I red on a topic here at Airliners.net about the fact that El Al planes could have some kind of anti-missile system: does anybody now if it's true? Could this system have saved the plane?


T_a

User currently offlineGerardo From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 3478 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 936 times:

YUP, Hkgspotter1! We could take a boat from NYC to Zurich.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Seriously, AFAIK, this would be the 2nd missile going after a civil aircraft in that region. Where exactly was the other TU154 shot down?

Gerardo


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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Dec 1999, 5389 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 854 times:

Wasn't the Tu154 over the Black Sea?

User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 811 times:

Yes, the Tu-154 accident happened over the Black Sea with the plane operating a TLV-Novosibirsk sector.

Story on the El-Al incident from Ha'aretz:
The pilot of an El Al flight from Tel Aviv to Moscow reported seeing a surface-to-air missile explosion as he flew over Ukraine on Thursday, Israel's transport minister said on Friday.

But Transport Minister Ephraim Sneh said the Israeli plane was never in danger and voiced doubt it had come under attack.

The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said Ukraine had not conducted any missile launches since accidentally downing a Russian airliner on a flight last October from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk in Siberia, killing 78 passengers and crew.

Sneh said he had spoken at length with the El Al pilot, whom he described as an experienced combat veteran of the Israeli air force.

"There is no doubt that he saw a missile that exploded in the air, apparently far from the plane," Sneh told Army Radio. "Circumstances suggest it was not launched at the El Al plane."

Reports of the purported missile launch followed an attack at an El Al counter at Los Angeles airport in which a gunman killed two people before security guards shot him dead.

Konstantin Khyvrenko, a Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesman, said the reported sighting "could be anything- something from the natural world, like a sudden change of temperature (or) lightning strike."

Amos Shapira, El Al's managing director, told Army Radio: "The pilot saw a flash...It was at least 10 to 100 miles (16 to 160 km) away. The plane was in no danger."


Gdabski

User currently offlinePanynj From Bahamas, joined Sep 2001, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 592 times:

Damn. Civil aviation should stay far away from Ukraine until they get their house in order.

The Ukrainians acidentally shot down a 79 person Vnukovo Airlines TU-154 full of Russians and Israelis returning from Tel Aviv.

User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 776 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 511 times:

What ever it was a Ukrainian pilot saw it too.
Israel asked US officials if their satellites "saw" anything.
After all it was a US satellite that found out that the Tu-154 was hit by a missile last October.




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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 7499 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 448 times:
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Anyone know what the flight was operated by? 757, 738?


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User currently offlineDexter From Austria, joined Jul 2000, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 424 times:

Yes, I heard a Ural Airlines Tu-154 crew en route from Odessa (southern Ukraine) to Ekaterinburg (Russia) noticed "something strange" too.
Sounds scary...

User currently offlineDexter From Austria, joined Jul 2000, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 416 times:

Kaitak,

I read some report that said "the Boeing 757 captain told...blablabla"...

User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States, joined Oct 1999, 821 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 403 times:

Does anyone know the altitude at which the LY jet was cruising?

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