BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
N8979E is one of the examples of Eastern Ships. Check this. When you see a DC9 with NWA, If it has one of the BIG Galley Doors instead of the usual small one, Then you know it is an Eastern Ship. Eastern ordered their -30s with Bigger galley doors than standard DC9s have. Look for Registration N922RW and you will see what I am talking about.. Also, look at N8979E
Gr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1587 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1593 times:
Correct. Northwest, along with National, operated no twin-jets until they bought out Republic. At the time of deregulation, American, TWA and Continental had disposed of their twins (1-11s and DC-9s) so they, too, used the 727 as their smallest jet.
Sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5243 posts, RR: 27 Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1449 times:
Yep, CO had gotten rid of its 9's, but when Texas Air's Texas International acquired the failing Continental in 1982-83, operations were consolidated under the Continental name, and the TI DC-9 fleet was re-liveried in CO colors. See below, one of the interim colorschemes, essentially TI colrs with CO title (note the big TI star on the tail).
Gr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1587 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1394 times:
Nope, Eastern's DC-9-31s did have forward galley doors considerably larger than the DC-9-51s and most other carriers' DC-9-30s. The pictures you posted do show the larger door. For comparison, here is a -10 with the small door and a -30 with the larger one:
The top edge of the smaller door is at the same level as the top of the cabin windows. I'm sure the caterers and cleaners really appreciated the difference! One exception is the three -31s inherited from Caribair: they had the smaller doors (as well as rear airstars):
TWA had sold its original DC-9-10s in the seventies but started again when Ozark was absorbed. Same with Continental; they sold their -10s in the seventies but later inherited nines from Texas International and New York Air. American did not have nines but they did have 1-11s, sold in the seventies. BTW, Braniff also sold off their twin-jet fleet (1-11s) in the seventies (maybe earlier) and concentrated on 727s until Braniff II took over Florida Express in the eighties.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1281 times:
North Central + Southern = Republic......all big DC9 operators, North Central was the biggest customer for the DC9-50. Southern had -10s and -30s, most of which were second hand from a variety of sources.
Republic then merged with (bought) Hughes Airwest, which also had a variety of DC9s, some of which were second hand from the major airlines. Hughes Airwest was itself a combination of other small west coast carriers, including Bonanza, Pacific Coastal, and others.
Republic + Northwest Orient = NORTHWEST. Northwest took the DC9 fleet and aggressively added to it, picking up many examples from failed Eastern Airlines as well as Alitalia, SAS, and a handful from other airlines on a one by one basis. NW recently updated the DC9-30/40/50 fleet, with hush kits, technical improvements and new MD90 type interiors and plans to fly these workhorses for many more years to come.
Lets not discuss what NW will replace the DC9 with, we seem to do date every week in this forum!
Iflewrepublic From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 537 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1241 times:
The oldest DC-9's in the fleet did not come from Southern Airways. They, in fact, came from Bonanza Airlines, which was one of the predecessors to Hughes Airwest. The DC-9-10's with an "N" number ending in "L" were originally delivered to Bonanza in the 1960's...and they've been kept in meticulous condition since.
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Exnonrev From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 621 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1221 times:
Currently the oldest of the NW Nines is N930RC (msn 45729/ln 16 ex-N946L), delivered to Bonanza on January 16, 1966. Ship 9140 began life as one of only three DC-9-11s built. The -11 had an MTOW of 77,500 lbs, which met the old FAA rule for a two man crew. When the 80,000 lb limit was lifted in early 1965, Douglas offered an upgrade to -14 standard to customers with -11s on order. Bonanza was the only one to keep the -11s as is.
All three (N945L, N946L, and N947L) were converted to -14s by Air West in 1969. 9140 (re-registered N930RC by Republic after spending a few years with Finnair) is the last of BZ's original three still at NW. As of her last SDR filing in April 2001, 9140 had 69,201 hours and 96,589 cycles. With an average of around 2,000 cycles per year, 9140 should be reaching NWA's 100,000 cycle retirement limit by the end of this year.