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User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 486 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

My friends flew PER-SYD-LAX-YVR yesterday. On their ticket, it says the Perth-Sydney portion was "operated by AWAS for QANTAS", aircraft Boeing 767-300/300ER. What is AWAS?

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User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

AWAS - Ansett World Aviation Services I think. Its now currently replaced by AWOPS (Australian Wetleasing Operations Pty Ltd) which is owned by QF.

Aircraft is either VH-NOA, or VH-BZI


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User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2083 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

After Ansett's demise, Qantas leased in additional aircraft for extra capacity. Just about all these aircraft have been returned, one exception is an all-white Ansett Worldwide Air Services 767-300 that usually operates on SYD-PER.



User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Arent there still 2 of them? NOA and BZI?


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User currently offlineAirpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 952 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

On a related topic, Qantas' New Zealand domestic operations btwn AKL and CHC/WLG are also operated by AWOPS. Are these franchise operations or actual QF flights using leased-in aircraft? If they are the latter, I wonder why QF make such a big deal highlighting the fact - on passenger boarding passes and painted by door 1R is the unmissable 'Operated for Qantas by AWOPS'.


User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

It's a legal requirment to inform all pax that they are not actually on a "Qantas" aircraft but on one operated on behalf of Qantas by Awops.
Same as on all codeshare flts that Qantas codeshares on. Again a legal requirement to inform all pax that although it has a QF flight number it is not a "Qantas" aircraft.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

Qantas uses ex AN 733's in NZ!! They are VH-CZR, CZS, CZU and JNE!

User currently offlineJsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

I worked on the sale of AWOPS to QF. As V-Jet says, it is a legal requirement that pax are notified if they are not flying aboard a QF aircraft. The crews are all ex AWAS people as well.

AWAS still exists (AWOPS was its wet leasing arm), and there are still 150+aircraft flying around the world which are dry leased from AWAS.

The DHL aircraft that collided in Germany with the TU154 last week was an ex-AWAS aircraft which was sold to DHL in 2000. We previously had another B757F which was wet leased to DHL, but that lease was terminated in April 2002, and the aircraft is now, as I understand it, flying with Cameroon Airlines.


User currently offlineMSY-MSP From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1013 times:

So what are the actual differences b/n a QF flight and one operated by AWOPS. Is the seating on the aircraft any different, or is it merely a cosmetic difference on the aircraft? I have noticed that the 763 SYD-CNS is an AWOPS aircraft. Has anyone flown this route on AWOPS? Also if given the choice would you fly QF or AWOPS for QF? Would appreciate the advice as I need to book this routing soon. Thanks.

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