United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17 Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1070 times:
British Airways, Lufthansa, Qantas, Northwest etc were once key carriers at KUL. However, they all pulled out of KUL. And KLM reduced its flights from daily to six times a week (Correct me if I am wrong).
KUL was rated number 2 last year although it always suffer from under-capacity.
The Malaysian Government has already abolished ALL landing fees and a number of negotiations with these airlines. However, they still can't get these key carriers back to KUL. Why?
The Malaysian Government plans to build KUL into a hub. However, I am not very optimistic about this although I like KUL a lot myself.
What's the future of KUL? Any chance for them to promote KUL?
United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1022 times:
KUL is bigger, as well as more advanced than SIN. At least it is newer.
But I like both of them.
I hope they will do something to promote KUL. Any idea how?
Tsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 16 Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 965 times:
Its kinda hard for KUL to be up and coming due to the massive infrastructure that is already built up in SIN. SIN for example, is Qantas' SEA hub. Unless Qantas relocates everything to SIN, there wont be much of a opportunity for BA/QF/OneWorld to move over to KUL as pax would have difficulty connecting.
KUL's lack of connectivity might also play apart. It wont be a choice for business pax, if they have to fly to KUL then to SIN to get to their destination.
Another factor could be the distance of KLIA from KL itself. 1 hour travelling isnt something everybody looks forward to.
Mhz From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2002, 92 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 948 times:
To say it is far from the city and lack of connectivity are not such a strong excuse in my opinion. It is pure bad luck that KUL was completed just in time the recession occured and to these airlines a pure economic sense are to cut KUL from the network coz SIN & BKK can serve them better and they are more establish. I will never right KUL off for being a premier airport coz once the economic is better and they start to realize that they are losing passengers to MAS, they will be back. Currently most of Middle Eastern airlines are flying to KUL and making its their hub and that is a good sign. Other point is MAS needs to be in an alliance so KUL can be the South East Asia hub to this alliance
Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 17 Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 908 times:
...but I thought Air NZ is in the process of buying the B744-500ERRE QLR XPC NRT - FFR with the super duper winglets...what's going on?
Shortfinals From Malaysia, joined Jul 2000, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 859 times:
United,
The train is actually already operational and has been since april this year. Transit time is advertised as 28 minutes. I've been on it several times, and it actually runs only 26 minutes and 15 seconds "chock to chock".
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 804 times:
KUL is in many ways more modern and larger than Singapore and Bangkok. It is the largest airport in SE Asia and also the home base for the largest airline in SE Asia, MAS. However, SIN has always been a traditional stopover for the Kangaroo route since the days of BOAC, even though BA operated to Perth from KUL. Even in the days of Subang, traffic loads were significantly smaller than BKK and SIN. Now superimpose that Subang traffic into the massive area KLIA currently is, makes the light traffic even more glaring and acute.
The Malaysian govt has foresight, because the traffic is expected to grow. Just that the airport was opened at the wrong time, right at the tail end of the Asian Economic crisis. On the plus side, Qatar Airways, Yemenia and a handful of carriers did inaugurate / increase services into KUL.
Now with pax traffic climbing back to pre-911 levels, MAS is also increasing frequencies to many of their destinations and they are currently the only airline flying the prime routes to LHR and CDG - fleet stream lining notwithstanding! However, I must attest to the fact that the peak periods at KLIA is a tad boring...
What KLIA needs is to win some awards like Changi has for the last decade or so, to put it on the international map.
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17 Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 783 times:
There are quite a large number of Businessmen taking the Airport Express. Coz it is fast, convenient as well as comfortable.
What KLIA needs is to win some awards like Changi has for the last decade or so, to put it on the international map.
According to Skytrax 2001, KLIA was rated NUMBER 2 globally (Rated higher than Changi Airport).
There is a market for KUL since airlines can connect a large number of Malaysians, Australians (Via KUL) and Singaporeans (Via KUL) to different places in the World. I hope they can do something to promote KUL.
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 772 times:
Yeah... but you need to be in the #1 spot for people to see you, no one remembers who is in the 2nd spot. Especially when SIN's reputation is world renowned as they have been winning awards continuously for the last 10 yrs!
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Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 23 Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 714 times:
A lot of us here talk about the sheer size of KLIA. In my personal opinion size doesn't mean everything. Efficiency, comfort is something that counts also. SIN offers much better connection also.
Qantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 708 times:
The lack of Oneworld airlines at KUL is ridiculous, I wanted to fly I will be going to SIN in October but I wanted to return from KUL. The only thing that Oneworld could offer me was via Hong Kong!
I prefer BA so I just booked with them to SIN and back and booked seperate flights with SQ for KUL which is not ideal but has to be better than going to Hong Kong.
Can anyone tell me where in the city the KUL express train goes to?
Thanks......Matt
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Shortfinals From Malaysia, joined Jul 2000, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 665 times:
Matt,
The train goes to somewhere near bangsar/national museum/Tun Sambanthan road.
25 Ryanair!!!: KLCAT (KL City Air Terminal) or KL Sentral is located next to the train station of Bangsar. From there, it is still a 5-10 mins taxi ride to the city
26 Hkg82: The incentives being offered by the Malaysian government can only do so much to attract new airlines & the big 3 that suspended their KUL services a f
27 United Airline: I hope BA, LH, QF will resume service to KUL in the future. Any chance? I heard that Australian Airlines will fly to KUL in the future. Why did NW pul
28 Mas777: Ryanair - just a footnote - British Airways in its time operate from KUL to Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Auckland. At its peak it
29 Mas a330: OK, its 26 mins. Which business person would take a train instead of a cab or limosine? For one thing, the train is much faster, 28 (26?) mins, as opp
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