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Whats Up With The 764?  
User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

I was wondering I havent heard any new orders for this aircraft.

whats up with that.

what are the pros and cons of this aircraft. is this aircraft suppose to be a replacement for 300 series aircraft?

Is the ER version dead since Kenya dropped it in favor for the 777?

who else opperates this aircraft other than DL?

thanks

drew


AMS-LAX-MNL
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User currently offlineAirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Continental also operates it and i believe that is it. Nobody else has orders for it i think.
Tony


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Continental & Delta are the only customers for the 764...so far.
37 ordered to date & 37 delivered to date. Info per Boeing website.
Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16371 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Only DL & CO operate the 764. It is a minimum-change stretch of the 763, with less range. Its development costs were low so Boeing may well still make money on the aircraft.

Boeing has proposed a longer range 764 but so far no takers. The so-called 764ER ordered by Kenya was replaced with a 772 order.

The 764 is kinda squeezed in capacity by the 763 and the 772.

Nonetheless, the 764 would be an inexpensive way of adding capacity for existing 763 customers....so I could see AA, UA, JL, ANA ordering the 764 on due course. Also possibly Britannia.

IMHO




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5054 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Yyz717,

The 764 is not a minimum stretch of the 763. It has an improved wing with raked wingtips, a new cockpit, new landing gear, new APU, new windows, and a new interior, as well as other, less obvious improvements. It's not like it's a completely new design, but it's not exactly a simple stretch either... If you want a simple strech, look at the 753 or the 739.


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

I doubt, that Boeing has made any money with the B764 so far. Perhaps the problem is, that this aircraft was above all developped according to the needs of Delta.

Gerardo



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

There is no doubt that the 764 is a disappointment for Boeing, airlines just do not seem to be interested in the type; the A332 has been very difficult competition for the 764 (even as Boeing supporter, I must admit that the A332 does beat out the 764 in range, flexibility and cargo capability) and many airlines simply do not need an aircraft to cover the small niche between the 763 and 772. Has Boeing made money on the 764 project? Unlikely with the small number of aircraft sold, but the 757/767 lines have been hugely successful for Boeing overall.

The future of the 764 is a difficult one to predict. Its possible that DL and CO will add to their fleets (CO especially seems quite happy with the type); Boeing will certainly try hard to sell the 764 to American....it would be an ideal aircraft to eventually replace the A300s and B762s on routes to Latin America out of AA's huge MIA hub as the 777 is really too much airplane for flights out of MIA and JFK to SJU and from MIA to cities in Peru, Colombia, etc. But that potential order is still a few years off and AA does really like its new 777s so its hard to say. The 764 could also pick some orders up from charter carriers in the US and Europe who are very focused on seat per mile costs (where the 764 does do very well) and we could see one or more of the Japanese carriers going for the 764 for their intra-Japan and regional routes (say JAL if it works out its deal for JDA?).

When the world economy improves, and pax numbers rebound, the 764 will have a "second chance", until then, I do not expect to hear much.


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