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JetBlue To Offer 16 Daily FLL-JFK Flights  
User currently offlineMAh4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

For the winter 2002/2003 season, jetBlue will double capacity between JFK and Ft. Lauderdale by offering 16 daily departures, in addition to eight dailies between PBI and JFK and two dailies between FLL and IAD for a total of 52 daily flights in and out of South Florida. jetBlue is now the #3 airline on America's most traveled long-haul route, and with thier expansion, can easily pass #2, Continental.


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User currently offlineVtual From France, joined Nov 2001, 137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

I think they should rather buy A321's than keep 16 daily flights !

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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

new york to florida, ain't really long haul is it?

User currently offline777d From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

That is a lot of flights between JFK and South Florida. The market between JFK and south Florida is that large?

WOW!!

The majors must have a business plan to counter Jetblue. I am pulling for Jet Blue to establish itself and to continue to expand their service throughout the nation.


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

I don't think Continental will allow that to happen (losing market share). I recently heard that Continental was considering starting hourly shuttle-type service from EWR-FLL starting this fall.


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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4499 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

JetBlue's move is simply more handwriting on the wall. Florida is becoming firmly low-fare, low-yield territory. Those condo canyons on the Gold coast are filled with retirees who have loved ones in New York and other Northeast cities; that's why JetBlue can fill all those flights. Disney World of course draws families who won't go if fares are high. These are people who aren't going to be bought off with extra FF miles or upgrades.

JetBlue, Southwest, and AirTran can make money in the emerging Florida aviation market. I don't think Continental or anyone else are going to bleed themselves trying (unsuccessfully) to drive JetBlue, WN or FL out of Florida.

The Cartel will keep what Florida service is needed to please their FF people and serve their spoke cities who don't have low-fare service. And of course AA's Latin American MIA hub with its strong business-flier component, will contine to thrive. But the days of Eastern, Delta and PanAm running the Snow-to-Sunshine corridor are long gone.

Jim



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User currently offlineMAh4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Richardw, 750 miles is long-haul (under 750mi is short-haul; when DOT determines the figures, there is no medium-haul).

777d, South Florida-New York has roughly 81 daily flights from the three South Florida airports to the four NYC airports.

TWFirst, that would be great if CO did do hourly shuttle EWR-FLL service. I wonder how AA would respond. They currently offer 20 daily Miami-NYC flights, but to various airports (9x MIA-LGA, 5x MIA-JFK, 3x MIA-EWR/FLL-LGA).

DCA-ROCGuy, I agree. Florida is an important market none the less, though. Miami is a huge business market, as you stated, and Tampa is not that small a business market either. MIA-TPA also get's a lot of business travel, and then there also the intra-State routes to TLH, which do well yield wise thanks to last minute runs to the capital. Other than that, though, it's not great yielding.



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User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Interesting
Good for them! Although I should note, it is up to 16 daily departures, so it won't be like that every day, only certain peak days and weeks in the winter season.


User currently offlineFrequentflier From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Sweet!

I don't know if the A321s would really work, though.

I think that part of jetBlue's business plan is quick turnarounds and efficient service. Unless a lot more staff were hired, this would probably affect these two principles in a negative manner.

By the way, can anyone give a revised JFK-FLL schedule?


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

I think given the huge demand for JFK-FLL/PBI flights and the fact that the A321 shares a lot of commonality with the A320, I wouldn't be surprised that B6 does order 10-12 A321's, primarily for their JFK-US West Coast and JFK-Florida service.

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16859 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

CO's response to Jet Blue, the 757-300.


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Nice new terminal!.



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Yes, it is!! That is new terminal 1 at FLL airport by CO, NW, B6, HP too. It will be soon as for opened as for new concourse B into August 2002. It would will be into Southwest Airlines after that will be moved from terminal 3 to terminal 1. I did always went to FLL airport to see my friends at Delta terminal and etc. They are very good friends into Delta Air Lines as for myself. So hope this is your helps. Thanks!

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