MAh4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33594 posts, RR: 71 Posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3140 times:
For the winter 2002/2003 season, jetBlue will double capacity between JFK and Ft. Lauderdale by offering 16 daily departures, in addition to eight dailies between PBI and JFK and two dailies between FLL and IAD for a total of 52 daily flights in and out of South Florida. jetBlue is now the #3 airline on America's most traveled long-haul route, and with thier expansion, can easily pass #2, Continental.
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4546 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3023 times:
JetBlue's move is simply more handwriting on the wall. Florida is becoming firmly low-fare, low-yield territory. Those condo canyons on the Gold coast are filled with retirees who have loved ones in New York and other Northeast cities; that's why JetBlue can fill all those flights. Disney World of course draws families who won't go if fares are high. These are people who aren't going to be bought off with extra FF miles or upgrades.
JetBlue, Southwest, and AirTran can make money in the emerging Florida aviation market. I don't think Continental or anyone else are going to bleed themselves trying (unsuccessfully) to drive JetBlue, WN or FL out of Florida.
The Cartel will keep what Florida service is needed to please their FF people and serve their spoke cities who don't have low-fare service. And of course AA's Latin American MIA hub with its strong business-flier component, will contine to thrive. But the days of Eastern, Delta and PanAm running the Snow-to-Sunshine corridor are long gone.
Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
MAh4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33594 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2987 times:
Richardw, 750 miles is long-haul (under 750mi is short-haul; when DOT determines the figures, there is no medium-haul).
777d, South Florida-New York has roughly 81 daily flights from the three South Florida airports to the four NYC airports.
TWFirst, that would be great if CO did do hourly shuttle EWR-FLL service. I wonder how AA would respond. They currently offer 20 daily Miami-NYC flights, but to various airports (9x MIA-LGA, 5x MIA-JFK, 3x MIA-EWR/FLL-LGA).
DCA-ROCGuy, I agree. Florida is an important market none the less, though. Miami is a huge business market, as you stated, and Tampa is not that small a business market either. MIA-TPA also get's a lot of business travel, and then there also the intra-State routes to TLH, which do well yield wise thanks to last minute runs to the capital. Other than that, though, it's not great yielding.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8137 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2912 times:
I think given the huge demand for JFK-FLL/PBI flights and the fact that the A321 shares a lot of commonality with the A320, I wouldn't be surprised that B6 does order 10-12 A321's, primarily for their JFK-US West Coast and JFK-Florida service.
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2880 times:
Yes, it is!! That is new terminal 1 at FLL airport by CO, NW, B6, HP too. It will be soon as for opened as for new concourse B into August 2002. It would will be into Southwest Airlines after that will be moved from terminal 3 to terminal 1. I did always went to FLL airport to see my friends at Delta terminal and etc. They are very good friends into Delta Air Lines as for myself. So hope this is your helps. Thanks!