Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39442 posts, RR: 76 Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
British Airways used to have one the worlds best looking liveries and I really liked there tail designs.
Now it looks as though British Airways has allowed every 1st grader in the UK to paint a tail on there aircraft.
What was the reasoning and thought process for this?
Timeforflight From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 267 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3454 times:
wow - ignorance runs rampant in this neck of the woods... first of all, thats far from 1st grader work. british airways selected acclaimed artists who represented their country and nationality through an incredible form of art. second, while you may only see lines and colors on those tails, the truth is that they all tell stories. many of these were featured in inflight magazines and on other published materials. I strongly urge you to catch up on your education. Visit this site: http://www.lockonaviation.net/sp.pl?f=ba/infokalahari1.jpg There are other stories that come along with tails of similar sorts. Im really quite saddened that you would trash diversity in the way you are. To think that after 9/11, a day that showed just how diverse this world is, people still remain stuck in tradition and "roots" to an extent that they reject another's heritage is disgusting... Its okay if you dont like the tails or the designs, but dont trash people's pride because our your opinion.
Cmchardyfl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2002, 175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3446 times:
This a thread I started a couple of weeks ago containing a collection of past and present liveries. From the old days until now. There are a few world tail fleets in there and if you take a look at the fleets bearing those liveries, Im sure youll disagree that they are all ugly.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39442 posts, RR: 76 Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3412 times:
So because I don't like those tails means I am ignorant?
I am all for diversity and celebrating one's heritage. I am one of the most liberal members in these forums.
These designs would be better suited as a buckhead design rather than a tail design.
Sorry but I didn't find my title in the 'search' feature.
I always run a search before I start a topic.
Cmchardyfl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2002, 175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3376 times:
Sorry. Im not saying this is the same as the thread I started, Im saying I have a lot of pictures of the fleet in different liveries in my thread. I liked the world tails, although there were a couple that I wasnt fond of. If BA were going to get rid of the world tails, I thought they could at least keep the Chelsea Rose, Union Flag (......Dockyard?) and Bennyhone as those three liveries, in my opinion, looked very smart and represent the UK.
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3784 posts, RR: 24 Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3374 times:
The BA 'World Tails' outside of Britain were indeed very popular with photographers and spotters the world over. As a photographer living in one of BA's US markets, I will certainly miss the chase of trying to get one of these unique works of art on film. Fortunely, it will be some time before they are all gone and that Houston has 2 BA flights a day increases my chances of getting a design that I may have missed earlier.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3367 times:
I guess you are a few years behind because the world tails are being replaced by that very boring Union Jack design.
Yes, I did like the world designs they had character and variety, I was also a huge fan of the West Pac logo jets.
Here at DTW where you see NW DC-9 after DC-9 it is nice to see a variety in color schemes. With the Union Jack scheme, you see one BA 744 you seen them all, but with the world schemes you could see a BA 744 in Chelsea Rose, another in Wanula Dreaming and etc.
BWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3347 times:
BA;s previous liveries were not bad. However the livery in which a plane is done can be used as a form of advertisement. Products need to be re-vamped and/or re marketed in such away to reflect that the business has evolved and to show the cooperate image of the company. I think that BA's idea not only potrays the airline as one with an extensive world route but as an airline that is contempary.
B-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3305 times:
I wish BA would at least keep one of each of the tails a special livery type promotion, even if they are converting all the others to the rather tepid Union Jack livery (I personally think that one looks awful on the 744, although it suits the 777 and Concorde quite well).
Paulc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3235 times:
I thought the world tails were awful and they probably cost BA a lot of money to a) appoint consultants b) select designs & artists c) repaint aircraft d) repaint aircraft again when they proved unpopular.
Airlines often have 1 or 2 aircraft in a special scheme - not an entire fleet.
I also believe there were safety implications expecially at night where making a positive identification of an aircraft is important.
Aviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1472 posts, RR: 15 Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3210 times:
Superfly: One is not ignorant for not liking the world tails of BA . . . but there are many who do love these tails . . . each one tells a story of the art and culture of a different country that BA flies to.
I personally find these stories very interesting and educational . . . but you need not worry, now that the airline is restoring the flag across the fleet.
Silverstreak From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 281 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3197 times:
BA, keep the "World Tails" scheme - it is sharp and it is interesting!! BA is a WORLD airline and it really shows it with this livery. Passengers really do look at and are very curious about these works of art. If you are a non-Brit, you do look to see if an artist from your country was included in the group of designs. I think BA shows a great deal of class. Perhaps BA would display the Union Jack on the a/c tails of its' regional services?
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3111 times:
It was all because Margeret Thatcher put a hanky over a model of one of them and said that the planes were ugly. That's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. Someone should put a hanky over Ms. Thatcher.
Gr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1587 posts, RR: 11 Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3100 times:
To answer the original question: the World Tails scheme was designed to convey the image of a worldwide airline, not just a British flag carrier. I think the idea was a great one and if it had had just a bit more Britishness it might have been more acceptable to the English.
Jmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3087 times:
lol! it was funny watching the news on the day BA went back on its descision an announced they were going back to a union jack scheme! I liked some of the tals not all of them, and i suppose it will be s shame when they go.
the reasoning was that the british public thought that the airline were 'dumbing down' their Britishness, being ashamed to fly the british falg. It was at a time when many companies were doing this, (British Petroleum officially changed their name to BP, after using the abbreviation for many years anyway). i suppose there was a point, something about national pride i suppose. it cost BA millions, and a lot of bad press (at a time when they didn't need it). Richard Branson loved it. His posters saying "The REAL british airline" etc, and then repainting his planes with the union jack on..... did his airline a lot of good!
The british didnt actually hate the designs, nbot even the idea i suppose, just the fact that British Airways the flag carrier wee doing it. When it comes down to it, you have to listen to your home market...
25 Arsenal@LHR: I personally didn't like the world tails, the old colour scheme was one of the best liveries ever! The new union jack is very stylish and smart also,
26 Jaysit: You have to agree that some of those tails were indeed rather aesthetically questionable. They may have looked beautiful on vases and blankets, but so
27 Greg: I thought it made for a very intersting variety. Although I didn't like all the schemes....I liked the idea.
28 DeltAirlines: I wish they had not changed the livery from the old colours. Their 1980s/1990s scheme was very sharp, conservative, and one of the most impressive liv
29 LMP737: I say good riddance to the "artistic" tails and thank God for the return of the Union Jack to BA aircraft.
30 Stretch 8: I like the World Tails for the reasons cited above. But one question: why no "American" themed world tail???
31 G-CIVP: There was an American themed tail - "waves of the city" which connection to the USA seems tenuous on the face of it.
32 Toady: Stretch8, because America is not a minority and, therefore, is not "trendy" enough!
33 Blink182: I loved the world tails. They were the best in the sky in my opinion. Unfortunately, Lady Margaret Thatcher(beeyotch) hated them and had enough power
34 Superfly: I certainly hate to take sides with that Thatcher moron. I am sure the intent of the world taild was a great idea, it just didn't pleasing to the eye.