Businessflyer From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 288 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1685 times:
I have recently heard talk about a Project Yellowstone that is being developed by Boeing concurrently to their Sonic Cruiser. What is it? Is it a new plane? According to this week's Flight International, British Airways is apparently expressing more enthusiasm for this project than for the Sonic Cruiser, but does anybody here actually know anything about it? Very curious!
Bells From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 157 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1637 times:
No, Yellowstone a "conventional" plane, like a 767. It's really being used as a "benchmark" against the Sonic Cruiser.
In other words, Boeing is asking: "How economical could we make a conventional airliner using the same technology and materials as the Sonic Cruiser?"
Some of the airlines, like BA, have told Boeing they would rather have "Yellowstone" than the Sonic.
The Blended Wing Body (BWB) is something entirely different, being worked on by Boeing's Phantom Works. This concept was inherited from McDonnell Douglas.
Joni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1604 times:
When the SC was first talked about, it was referred to as "Yellowstone", then "Sonic Cruiser". Now, "Yellowstone" refers to a conventional-speed plane.
Jayhup From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1546 times:
I've been to Yellowstone Park in Wyoming....it was beautiful!
Businessflyer From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1408 times:
Although I saw somewhere that Airbus is also looking to develop a medium range 250 seater plane, thereby providing the full range of plans to airlines.
But does anybody know what the specifications of Yellowstone actually are?
Areopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1357 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
The Yellowstone name was mentioned in the first announcement of the Sonic Cruiser. At the time, Yellowstone was neither the Sonic Cruiser nor its conventional counterpart. The relevant paragraph is:
The sonic cruiser also is called the "faster airplane" and does not have an official name yet. It was brought forth by Boeing's new airplane product development group under the "20XX" project, which has been collecting a toolbox of configuration, manufacturing, systems and other technologies during the last five years to be ready for a new airplane when the market is right. Some press reports referred to the sonic cruiser as "Yellowstone," but Bair said this is "a piece of technology" in 20XX and not the new design.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16260 posts, RR: 52 Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1280 times:
The magazine I read today (forgot the name, British though) had a very honost in depth feature about both the A-380 and the Sonic Cruiser.
The magazine article who's author seemed to have a very reliable contact within Boeing mentioned the aircraft we call Sonic Cruiser may be called the 808, the 808 would represent a new generation of technology and aircraft similar to the 707. Also 808 is a lucky number amongst many Asian cultures.
This would also leave a 787 and 797 series to continue along the lines of more conventional aircraft. They mentioned a Super economical aircraft to replace both the 737 and 757 lines, this is probably what people are calling the Yellow Stone project. This is about 10 years from entering service.
Another interesting item mentioned in the article I read today is that many analyst and engineers believe the Sonic Cruiser is actually not a new totally new design, they feel many of the features of the SC were designed for a US Military Stealth aircraft that may or may not exist in some form.
LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
BWIA 772:
I think it's inevitable that Boeing will have a common cockpit for it's entire family of aircraft. Airbus had the advantage of developing it's narrow body and wide body (minus the A300/310) aircraft within ten years of each other. Boeing on the other hand did not have this luxury.