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AA 777s Between DFW & Lax?  
User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3529 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2334 times:

I'm trying to plan a trip to Dallas in September, and when I did a search for flights on the aa.com website, I found these two flights:

#2446 LAX-DFW
Depart 1:16p
Arrive 6:17p
Equipment: 777

#2409 DFW-LAX
Depart 9:29a
Arrive 10:37a

AA is not known for flying 777s domestically between non-hub US cities (MIA-LAX is the only one I can think of -- LAX is not a hub). I'm surprised (but happy) that they are going to fly the 777 on the DFW-LAX route. Is this a temporary move, or will the widebody be around for a while on this route?

I've enjoyed United's 777 service from LAX-DEN, and I'll definitely choose the 777 to Dallas if available.

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User currently offlineJapanguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 81 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2299 times:

The flight number looks like a code share......

User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2282 times:

Nope. These flights are listed as "operated by American Airlines". In addition, I'm fairly certain regular AA flight #'s go up through the 2000's.

User currently offlineHawkeye2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

AA flies 777s from LAX to LHR and soon NRT, so the DFW-LAX flights might just be repositioning flights, like how UA flies LAX-ORD with 744s sometimes.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

Hawkeye2 is probably right, AA does need to move its 777s around for utilization and maintenance purposes, so flying the 777 between LAX and DFW makes sense for one flight per day.

Also, LAX is a huge destination out of the DFW hub, and AA may simply need the seats at the peak times that the mentioned flights will operate.


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

AA also operates the 777 on DFW-ORD routes once a day I think.


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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

It may be for positioning purposes, although LAX-NRT isn't supposed to start until March or April of next year. All I know is that it beats taking an MD-80 to DFW.

User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Flyingbronco05-

AA in a way has fifth freedom rights for the DFW-ORD 777 as that flight number and aircraft continue to LHR. The official routing of the route is DFW-ORD-LHR, as it is all under one flight number. The reverse(LHR-ORD-DFW) is the same too. However, AA can pick up and drop off pax at ORD though.

As far as I know, pretty much all of AA's 777 domestic flights are repositioning, or routes with 2 legs, which the first or second leg is longhaul.

As I mentioned, DFW-ORD-LHR and LHR-ORD-DFW are perfect examples of this. I know AA flies 777s between DFW and MIA. Those go onto S. America. A weird thing is that DFW operates DFW-MIA-MAD flight#68 (correction?). The MIA-MAD leg is operated by a 763, but the DFW-MIA leg is flown by a 757.

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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

In addition to the DFW-ORD 777, AA #999 is a 777 that goes LAX-MIA-GRU

However, it looks like the new LAX-DFW flight is not a continuation to anywhere. I don't see any continuation on AA's electronic timetable, and it arrives in DFW too late to go to Europe or Latin America. (it could possibly do a later night Latin America run, but I don't see anything like that in the schedule).

In addition, the plane arrives in LA from DFW much too early to do the LHR run.

Oh well, I'm going to book it and hope for the best (that there is no equipment change).


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

Travelin Man- When the 777 arrives in DFW, it could be doing the SCL run. I have my doubts though as they would probably let the 777 assigned to SCL rest a little more.

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User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2179 times:

SCL run in no longer done by a 777 it has been downgraded to a 763 in favor of the 777 running MIA-SCL

User currently offlineCschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

They also fly the 777 DFW-MIA, then on to Buenos Aires.

User currently offline738_Driver From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Don't bet on the 777... It might not be one when September rolls around.

BTW, Japanguy, AA flight numbers are 1-2599 for AA metal, 2600-3199 for TW metal and 3200-5999 for American Eagle. The 2400 flight number will tell you that the flight is scheduled as a DFW-LAX or DFW-SJC trip out of/into the B Terminal at DFW.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

It appears that this is a pure utilization flying route, similar to how CO and DL have put their 777 and M11 respectively on LAX runs for a couple months at a time. LAX is a market which can support the extra capacity nicely, which an international market may not always be able to do, especially in the lean times around September-October.

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