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How Many SQ 744's With Wiseman Installed?  
User currently onlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5294 posts, RR: 11
Posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Just wondering guys as SQ's newest 744 9V-SPQ was in AKL today and I thought that the aircraft with Wiseman installed were used on LHR and SYD routes, or is there now enough aircraft with it installed to operate other routes?

Thanks.  Smile

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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Wisemen on SQ? I am sure you are referring to a system of some sort, but it it would appear that wisemen don't travel on SQ!!

User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1969 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Yes it's called Wiseman, not Wisemen.

Anyway Cx flyboy what you posted was off topic and a rather cheap shot.


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

I thought it was rather funny. Good to have humour in these forums.

The question remains. What 744's have the new system installed? I am flying on 2 747-400's with SQ this thursday From Hong Kong Via Singapore to London.

Trevor



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

I find it most irregular that the people from Hong Kong who have no idea about SIA matters regularly post information reflecting their knowledge in such posts.

WISEMEN / Matsushita Avionics 3000 is being progressively installed on Megatop 747s and all Jubilee 777s.

However, information on what aircraft actually have this feature is sketchy. 9V-SPK and 9V-SVA can give you more information as they often have a shortlist of aircraft.

All 777-200ER (9V-(SVA to SVH)) have WISEMEN, but they don't go to New Zealand as far as I know.



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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

I find it highly irregular that a teenager could have an obsession to the extent that you do, and although you are slowly improving, you obsession causes you to search out anything bad about other airlines to improve the image of your obsession.

I admit, I don't have a first clue what Wiseman is. I admit it. Why is that irregular? Surely if someone asks questions, or mentions that they don't know something, it is blindingly obvious that they know little about that matter, otherwise they wouldn't be asking would they?, so of course what is reflected is that that person does not know. Logical really, and not very irregular at all.

So, what is Wiseman then?


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Flyboy: Do not try and hide under a veil of curiosity when you post comments like "but it it would appear that wisemen don't travel on SQ!!"

For your information, there is no such system called Wiseman.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

I am genuinely curious. If you don't want to tell me, then fine. Perhaps another forum member will. On a side note, you really do not appear to have a sense of humour at all, do you.

If Wiseman is not a system, tell me what it is.


User currently offlineN866DA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

WISEMEN / Matsushita Avionics 3000 is being progressively installed on Megatop 747s and all Jubilee 777s.

I find it highly irregular that somebody, even an obsessive-compulsive person such as yourself, insists on referring to aircraft types by their rather stupid corporate names assigned to them by some freak in a cubicle somewhere in Singapore. You really are as strange as you seem.


User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Wiseman is SQ's Audio Video On Demand system (AVOD) that lets you pause movies, etc.

BTW what if Singapore_Air is the Chief Executive Officer of Singapore Airlines Limited? Big grin  Big grin


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

If he was the CEO of SQ, that is more of a reason not to fly SQ, and would immediately put off many members from going anywhere near an SQ aircraft!!

User currently offlineHawkeye2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

I flew 9V-SPP SQ030 TPE-LAX in Jan 2002 in J, and it did NOT have Wisemen installed, just the normal Krisworld.

User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

Friend of mine flew CDG-SIN on 9V-SPQ and he said it was crap. Wiseman AVOD not installed.


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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

"Wise men say only fools rush in........................"

User currently offlineKrisworldB777 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 570 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

What the hell is wrong with you all? Are you all completely deranged one-eyed fools? Goodness gracious me! Why the hell must you consistently taunt and lower Singapore_Air in your every comment? Why is it ok for you, cx flyboy, to again and again market all of CX’s high points and capitalise on SQ’s bad? Wake up man! If you hate what Singapore_Air says, then you’re just as bad so look at yourself in the mirror…if that is possible. We all know Singapore_Air is passionate about his SIA and yes, of course I realise how many of you find it difficult to comprehend such loyalty but if he happened to be passionate about your beloved CX then I’m sure you’d have no qualms whatsoever and would be the first to encourage. You can’t deny that Singapore_Air certainly does provide huge amounts of often valuable industry info which most of us find pretty bloody useful. But alas, he can never say the right thing. Its ridiculous and too many of you react like you should be in kindergarten.

Now that I’ve had my little bitch, WISEMEN is installed on a fair few of SQ’s 744s flying the long-haul routes, especially to Europe. But as we all know, anything SQ decides to implement takes about as the average human’s lifecycle before completed, only to start again with something new. Lots of the 777s have it. From memory, SRJ, SRK, SRL, SYF, SYG, SVA-SVG have it. Haven’t tried it yet but will look forward to doing so…provided that all the technical niggles have been sorted.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

9V-SVE: Thanks (I think). Wisemen, not Wiseman!


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1845 times:

Why does all that not surprise me? You know, I never used to go on and on about CX. In fact I used to be the first to critisize them. Perhaps you do not remember. Just like HKGSpotter now is a big airbus supporter because of all the Boeing supporters who unjustifyably insult Airbus all the time, it has affected me because certain members used to deliberately find bad news about CX and good news about SQ. These certain members are improving, but the damage is done I am afraid. If you do not like it, then I am truly sorry. When I see praise and praise about something that I see faults in, I like to highlight the issue. I don't think there is anything wrong with that....but then, with a username like yours I guess there is bias there anyway, so perhaps I should save my breath.


User currently offlineSingapore 777 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1828 times:

Cx flyboy, although the damage is done, as a forum member I'd really like to see you and Hkgspotter be able to stop this. I'm sure that if you set a good example for everyone else here, Singapore_Air will most certainly not post biases towards SQ and against all other airlines. In any case, if both parties continue to provoke each other with silly actions like these, it doesn't do anything to help the case and only makes it even worse.

So in concluding, I really really would like to see all this childish bickering come to an end so that we can concentrate on more fruitful discussions.


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1825 times:

You mean you're not having fun?!

User currently offlineSingapore 777 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1823 times:

Having fun? Maybe initially yes, watching the both of you bicker is very entertaining but it's turning out to be very personal and vengeful. And I think it does nothing to help the situation. If something has to be stopped, one party has to be the first to take action. Singapore_Air has toned down on his anti-"all other airlines" nonsense although I admit that I do find one or two threads from him a little annoying. I hope that you could be the first person to initiate a stop to this. Hopefully, everyone will follow after that.

User currently offlineMarcelduchamp From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1812 times:

guys... this sort of behaviour is just disgraceful! let's just answer the question. And if there's the desire to be funny, a small amount of wit would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I've flown 9V-SPP recently, and no, it didn't hve AVOD.


User currently offlineKrisworldB777 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 570 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1804 times:

Cx flyboy, you’re very entertaining!

Pity about what it does to your credibility. Let me know when you're flying so I can switch to alternatives China Airlines perhaps.  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1805 times:

Singapore777,

Very mature of you to suggest that. If I had read this before I saw you guys at the airport this afternoon, I would have come over to pat you on the back. Unfortunately, you cannot expect others to grow up if they do not wish to. That's life. Sad but true.

The old saying "if you can't beat them, join them" is just so true. Many people succumb to this, as can be seen in the case of cx_fly_boy joining the ranks of Hkgspotter1 in their constant bickering with S_air. Many others took the easy way out by joining in the bickering instead of being objective and concentrating on the topic at hand. There are others, who are just anti-establishment, and will try to be rebellious and fine tune their opinions just so that they are seen to be different. These are the attention seekers. The best way to deal with them is to ignore them.

Fortunately I still find reading the constant bickering between the 2 HKG members and a particular British member entertaining, so I am not too affected by all the junk comments they post. I simply love to see them making a fool of themselves on the www.

"Wise men say only fools rush in........................"

Hmmm....could that be the reason why CX installed the flatbeds in J class before SQ did?  Laugh out loud

No offence Cx-fly-boy, I just couldn't resist that one.  Wink/being sarcastic



There's always a better way to fly...
User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1797 times:

Flyboy:
Oh before I forget (getting old), I just love airliners, I am not fanatically loyal to any airline. My username has nothing to do with my orientation towards SQ. I wanted cx_fly_boy initially, but you grabbed it before I did.  Laugh out loud



There's always a better way to fly...
User currently offlineN521NA From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Well I think that the maturity of CX_Flyboy isn't too surprising!

The way and his fellow friends have been acting over recent months, it only goes to discredit them and as we have nothing to lose by such thing, I see no reason for letting them demean themselves.


25 B-HXB : It is hardly a lynching offense to not know what Wisemen is.
26 Cx flyboy : Geez, there's a severe level of seriousness here isn't there? If you all so wish, I shall tone it down, but please note that I have not really been th
27 ZK-NBT : So nobody know's what exact aircraft are fitted??
28 Jesseycy : "So in concluding, I really really would like to see all this childish bickering come to an end so that we can concentrate on more fruitful discussion
29 KrisworldB777 : Pretty sure SPN-SPQ all have it. The only other certainty is SMM coz its got the Spacebeds alike SPQ so perhaps AKL has gone from the rustbucket 744s
30 Mr.BA : I don't object Cx_flyboy of constantly raising issues, I mean they should be raised and realised. I think what everyone or rather, most of us would li
31 Mr.BA : Look back on almost all of the SQ threads, it ends in the most undesirable way without getting proper views and answers after 2 or 3 threads down...
32 9V-SVA : Erm Colin, why don't you just leave Singapore_Air alone and treat him as invisible? I'm honestly not having fun when we can all be chatting about some
33 9V-SVA : OK CX I suddenly realised that you don't like your name displayed, so I'm sorry for any disturbance caused. I'm terribly sorry. 9V-SVA
34 747-fan : So, many of the forumers here would love to tell us how SQ isnt as good as it is. This has happened oh so many times. Fair I suppose. As for me, I wou
35 Post contains images 9V-SVE : Also, I had fun about a week ago in chat joking about two people (no names). I can tell you one thing, they're both big SQ fans
36 SQ772 : 747-fan, I second that! Airlines should consider providing AVOD for Y class pax instead of just the P and J pax. I flew to ORD on SQ and enjoyed the A
37 9V-SVA : ZX Lee, your comments are UNAPPRECIATED. 9V-SVA
38 B-HXB : I assume since the Wisemen system is more complex in terms of AVOD etc. than other airlines' programming systems, it must take up more space? Is this
39 9V-SPK : No wonder this forum is getting boring, boring, boring. Especially as a Chinese who lives in Hong kong for most of the time but travel SQ most of the
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