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The Ritual Of Complaining....  
User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3221 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

Why is it that often you sit in an airplane seat, and the first thing that happens is the person next to your tries to start a conversation by complaining about something.

Examples:

"What do you want to bet we are delayed?"
"I hope the food on this flight is better than on the last flight?"

And do you notice that these complainers often say thing loundly enough so that everyone else in the area can hear?

What happened to diginity, courtesy, and good manners?


14 year airliners.net vet! 2000-2013
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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

This is endemic of society as a whole. While I wouldn't say it of everyone, we live in a complainer society. There has been a trend also to avoid responsibility for our own actions too... hence the US trend for lawsuits etc

Jeremy


User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1032 times:


Yep absolutely true !

Last year I went FRA-CLT on US AIRWAYS. We had a one hour gate hold due to heavy traffic. I was in the cockpit for that one hour and when I came back and sat down there was this guy starting a conversation like "..so what have those clowns up front done again that we're not getting on.." well , I said I completely understand his point of view , however I explained him that it was not at all the pilots fault etc... well he continued to tell me how it sucks that he didn't get his first class seat this time etc.. He was an ex Vietnam pilot and he was shot down a few times ..oh it was funny after all!

Regards,
Patrick



When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

I very much agree with Artsyman. And the very same people who you mentioned above who bitch about how crappy and low-quality airline food is are the same complainers when food gets eliminated from the flight (as per 9.11). For those people, complaining has actually become an artform.


Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

I know what you mean, we had a flight 3-4 hour delay yesterday and offered the pax a 10% off voucher and gave them £5 each for a meal, and some still complained at that. Legally we only had to give them light refreshments (tea/coffee and biccies) after 3 hours, but nope we gave them enough to buy a half decent meal AND 10% off their next flight.

Some people are never happy. Big grin



"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
User currently offlineDash8king From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

When you pay you have the right to complain. Although people should be happy with what they got with the story above.

User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

When you pay you have the right to complain

This should be "When you pay you have the right to complain within reason. Things like cold coffee or a smelly plane I can understand (politely of course). But when people start complaining about stuff that gets way out of hand (like "Why is there no internet connection on this plane? You mean to tell me I can't send my daughter an email to let her know that I'm on my way?" or "These damn flight attendants won't let me leave the plane to have ONE cigarette. We have 5 more minutes.") that's when the line has to be drawn.



Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineDash8king From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 972 times:

Thank you for clearing that up, that is exactly what I meant.

User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 962 times:

And people often confuse moral rights with legal rights.

Yes, freedom of speech means that you can complain all you want.

But people also have the right to complain about your complaining.

And if what you are asking for is patently unreasonable,
you have no moral right to complain. The constitution will let you be a jerk. But that does not mean it is right to be.


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 962 times:

dash8king,
you could always keep your mouth closed and save yourself the embarrassment or have class and just wait out the delay.it sure beats driving or taking the train.you may pay for a tkt but why upset the other pax who are probably nervous to fly in the first place.

just my opinion

ual 777 contrail


User currently offlineCMK10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 962 times:

Thats not just airplane travel, thats America. You go to a golf coruse its, "think the caddies will speak english?"
Go to a resturant, "If the service isn't good im not tipping"
People have no respect for others doing their jobs, especially in aviation.
DC-10's Forever



"Traveling light is the only way to fly" - Eric Clapton
User currently offlineRwy31R From Saudi Arabia, joined Aug 2001, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 927 times:

The desire to complain has always been part of human behavior. Being in an airplane/airport does not by any means suppress that fact. Many things would induce a person to complain, some justified while others not so. It's how we approach the problem and methods (and timing) of the complain that we must controls and execute well. Not all problems are the FA's fault.


"Saudia Three Five hold short Three One Right"
User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 899 times:

From my experience (9 years) in aviation, people seem to fly off the handle into a rage about the smallest things when they are traveling by air much more than they do on any other form of transport.

Example in the UK we have a third world rail system where trains are always late or overcrowded, but people just accept this and get on with it, sure they may be annoyed but they still accept it. But when they fly, even the slightest little thing is enough to send sparks flying. I mean if someone gets on a bus and all the window seats are taken, would they then start screaming and shouting at the driver - Don't think so, but that happens EVERY day in aviation, or if you get to the bus stop late the bus would just leave without you, but you wouldn't then launch into a verbal and sometimes physical attack over it like people do when they turn up late for flights.

I did see a program on TV about this, and it basically said that it's because when people are flying there are a lot of people who are actually really scared of it, but they don't want to show it so become overly aggressive, or people find it hard to hand over control of their lives to someone else and having absolutely no say in the matter, which is basically what they are doing when traveling by air, as on the bus they can just get off, but that's not possible on an a/c at FL300.


Some people are just downright bonkers and unreasonable tho and just complain for the sake of it, or because they think they will get some kind of freebie out of it like an u/g.

I just think that there is a box outside every airport that is only visible to passengers. The box is marked ' Leave Brain Here '. They then remove their brains before walking through the door to the airport, and collect a new one on arrival at the destination.

:D



"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 879 times:

Man, I CAN'T STAND complaining!!!!!!!! lol


Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 872 times:

It's fun to complain!

It's the Ameican way.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineDelta777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 844 times:

We were on MetroJet a few years ago and the flight was delayed for a few hours so US Airways gave us all $10 per person to go and get something to eat. There was one loud, fat lady who I saw sitting and eating a pizza at Pizza Hut near our gate. Shortly after she finished they began to board and right in the middle of the safety deminstration she yelled out "are we ganna get some food on this flight!!!!" minutes after using her $10 MetroJet voucher to get a Pizza Hut Pizza. I don`t get it. People just love to complain.

D E L T A 7 7 7


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 813 times:

Hmm, I must be flying in a different universe. I hardly ever hear complaints around me. Everyone seems to understand delays; more often than not, I hear people joking about them.

Come to think of it, my flights have been pretty much on time lately. I did miss a connection recently at DFW, but it was a last-minute switch of flights from ICT and I fully expected to miss the 20 minute connection time. The agent was extremely pleasant, gave me a bunch of booze/headset coupons and a $10 meal ticket.

I think the occasional travelers tend to be more of the complainers.

Pete  Smile


User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 806 times:

I hope the irony of you all complaining about complainers isn't lost on you.

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