Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2895 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1064 times:
Hmmm, keep in mind that they just replaced their BAC1-11s with B737-200(!). I don't think that they will buy any new aircraft, maybe in about five years they might replace the 732s with 733s or maybe 735s, and then in 10 or 15 years they might buy second-hand 717s.
The only possibility I see for EAL to buy 717s now: Boeing must offer them for cheap. I mean really cheap. But they won't.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1058 times:
I could see them leasing those that Boeing has out in the desert, but they will have to get something that doesn't have to be hushkitted, because the 732 will be banned in Europe in a few years, just like the BAC 1-11.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
European Aviation Air Charter (EAAC) have carved their niche by purchasing quality used aircraft from major airlines at bargain prices, most notably;
BAC1-11s from British Airways
B737-200s from Sabena
B747-200s from British Airways
Purchase of a very young fleet of B717s would be totally different from the way the airline has done business in the past. I'd like to ask one question. Why?
The B717 has far higher aquistion costs than the B737-200s EAAC already has, but carries fewer passengers and has a shorter range. You would save money on fuel and maintenance - but the initial costs of a B717 fleet would be high, plus they would make the already paid for B737-200 fleet redundant, and EAAC would have to try and re-market these relatively old aircraft for a lot less than they are worth to EAAC, due to the state of the used aircraft market.
The only rumours I've heard about future fleet moves for EAAC have been to add second-hand B737-300s to supplement and eventually replace the B737-200s. These aircraft would increase range and capacity, while cutting fuel and maintenance - and would cost a lot less than a similar number of B717s.
Just glad I managed to get a flight on an EAAC BAC1-11 (MAN-VCE-PSA-MAN)while they were still in frontline service in 1996!
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 936 times:
Crosswind wrote:
Purchase of a very young fleet of B717s would be totally different from the way the airline has done business in the past. I'd like to ask one question. Why?
"Why" is the question Airways posed as well. The answer was that EAL has always been unpredictable with their A/C and who knows what decision they'll make for the future.
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Good points.
DIA
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 591 times:
Twaneedsnohelp,
They don't have 8 names!
The airline is;
European Aviation Air Charter Ltd (EAAC)
They are owned by:
European Aviation Ltd (EAL)
Sometimes people get mixed up and refer to EAAC as EAL because the initials of the parent company are on the fin, its an AA/AMR sort of situation with the names...