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EAL To Possibly Buy 717s  
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

Just read Airways magazines excellent article on EAL of Europe.

The article was great, getting into every A/C EAL has dabbled with. Then it mentions that EAL is considering the 717.

Any thoughts on this possibility?


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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Hmmm, keep in mind that they just replaced their BAC1-11s with B737-200(!). I don't think that they will buy any new aircraft, maybe in about five years they might replace the 732s with 733s or maybe 735s, and then in 10 or 15 years they might buy second-hand 717s.

The only possibility I see for EAL to buy 717s now: Boeing must offer them for cheap. I mean really cheap. But they won't.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

I could see them leasing those that Boeing has out in the desert, but they will have to get something that doesn't have to be hushkitted, because the 732 will be banned in Europe in a few years, just like the BAC 1-11.

User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

I just have to agree with you guys. Though I hate to....

- caravelle



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1389 times:
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European Aviation Air Charter (EAAC) have carved their niche by purchasing quality used aircraft from major airlines at bargain prices, most notably;

BAC1-11s from British Airways
B737-200s from Sabena
B747-200s from British Airways

Purchase of a very young fleet of B717s would be totally different from the way the airline has done business in the past. I'd like to ask one question. Why?

The B717 has far higher aquistion costs than the B737-200s EAAC already has, but carries fewer passengers and has a shorter range. You would save money on fuel and maintenance - but the initial costs of a B717 fleet would be high, plus they would make the already paid for B737-200 fleet redundant, and EAAC would have to try and re-market these relatively old aircraft for a lot less than they are worth to EAAC, due to the state of the used aircraft market.

The only rumours I've heard about future fleet moves for EAAC have been to add second-hand B737-300s to supplement and eventually replace the B737-200s. These aircraft would increase range and capacity, while cutting fuel and maintenance - and would cost a lot less than a similar number of B717s.

Just glad I managed to get a flight on an EAAC BAC1-11 (MAN-VCE-PSA-MAN)while they were still in frontline service in 1996!

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1314 times:

Crosswind wrote:

Purchase of a very young fleet of B717s would be totally different from the way the airline has done business in the past. I'd like to ask one question. Why?

"Why" is the question Airways posed as well. The answer was that EAL has always been unpredictable with their A/C and who knows what decision they'll make for the future.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Good points.

DIA



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User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

I was going to comment on EAF's unpredictability too. How many people knew they were going to buy 6 B747s before they suprised us?!

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month ago) and read 1137 times:

Why do this airline have like 8 different names?

User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1052 times:

Would be cool, if they get the 717....

User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 969 times:
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Twaneedsnohelp,
They don't have 8 names!

The airline is;
European Aviation Air Charter Ltd (EAAC)

They are owned by:
European Aviation Ltd (EAL)

Sometimes people get mixed up and refer to EAAC as EAL because the initials of the parent company are on the fin, its an AA/AMR sort of situation with the names...

Regards
CROSSWIND


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