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Egyptair To Suspend Syd?  
User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1333 times:

Have just heard a report that Egyptair will suspend their twice weekly CAI-SIN-SYD service in August- unsure if SIN will still be served.

There goes another SYD operator...

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User currently offlineSkippy777 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2001, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

Another airline leaving Australia. Maybe in the future we will only be able to fly with Qantas or BA. Are they controlling the market there.

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Has any reason been given as to why this is happening. How odd to have another Middle Eastern carrier drop the market, especially given the very large Middle Eastern populations of Sydney and Melbourne. Will they be replacing it with a codeshare or other form of agreement?

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User currently offlineBritair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1234 times:

I think the main reason (other than the questionable economics of the Australia route) is competition from Emirates. Up until Emirates started services Australia was served by GulfAir, EgyptAir and MEA. All three have now been forced to quit because of Emirates strength in the market, IMHO.

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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

Will QF ever enter the Middle East market again?


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User currently offlineZizou From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 1535 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

Didn't Qantas once fly to Bahrain sometime in the 80s?

User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

Emirates had no effect on Egyptair's decision to quit SYD- Egyptair fare levels are considerably lower (as were MEA's and Gulf Air's). In addition, Egyptair fares (in all classes) to SIN, the Middle East and Europe are the lowest of any carrier.

Qantas to Bahrain- they most certainly did fly there (LHR-BAH-SIN-SYD) and there are no plans to re-enter the Middle East market.


User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

Zizou,
QF's flights to BAH were due to technical necessity as planes at that time could not do SIN-LHRvv nonstop. I doubt that they plan to go back into the MidEast anytime in the foreseeable future.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1062 times:

I never understood how there could be much of a market from Egypt to Aus anyway.




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User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

MEA dropped services to Sydney way before Emirates entered the market.

There is a substantial market between the Middle East & Australia, however comparing Emirates to Egypt air is like comparing apples & oranges. Egypt Air has no PTVs, the aircraft are dirty & service isn't that crash hot.



User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4749 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

MEA now code shares with Malaysia Airlines on the KUL-SYDvv sector. So they are not exactly 100% out. Gulf Air still flies to SYD and MEL from Singapore.


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User currently offlineLanChileA340 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 week ago) and read 1013 times:

What I have heard from internal sources in Chile, is that apparently in early 2003, LanChile will commence to fly a Madrid-Beirut-Denpasar-Sydney sector 3 times a week with the A340-313X under a oneworld alliance codeshare with Iberia Airlines of Spain. It has also been said that Qantas may also add a flight number of theirs to codeshare on this oneworld route. This flight linking Spain with Lebanon, Indonesia and Australia, has come about in the midst of growing traffic between these destinations and to top it all off, the heavy load between Lebanon and Australia. There has been a forecast of very heavy loads on this future flight because of the usual flow between Sydney and Denpasar, also between Sydney and Beirut and also between Madrid and Denpasar. LanChile has been chosen to work as a oneworld linkage carrier on RTW fares. As of yet, nothing has been confirmed, but talks and conferences have been going on in Santiago, Chile and Madrid also in relation to the issue.

User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 980 times:

So theres a market for QF in Lebanon, infact I heard some where that they are considering Beirut as a possible future destination.

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User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 932 times:

With SYD-BEY market fares hinging around A$1200 return, that's one route Qantas wont touch.

Ryanair!!!- Gulf Air don't fly their own metal to SYD/MEL anymore- it's a Qantas codeshare from SIN. In addition, after the wthdrawal, most Gulf Air staff in Australia were let go. As for MEA- well, they pretty much are out of the market- there are hardly any fares available via travel agents- you have to go to the Lebanese community suburbs to find them.


User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 925 times:

It seems strange that Lan Chile would consider flying MAD/BEY/DPS/SYD? I would have thought Iberia a better candidate.

I rang up a travel agent in the Lebanese community & I was quoted an airfare of approximately $1700 with Emirates. A large number of people will pay the extra $200 or so to fly Emirates over Egypt Air.

I have also heard rumours about QF commencing flights into Beirut, but they would have to compete with Emirates and at this stage I don't think they can. The service (from experience) on both carriers is uncomparable.



User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 922 times:

If LanChile started that route, they would offer the only current RTW service on a single airline.  Smile

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