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JNU-YVR ...nothing?  
User currently offlineScutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 428 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1105 times:

Bit bored today, so i got to pondering the fate of air service to Juneau, AK. They've had an Alaska airlines monopoly for as long as I know, and if you want to go anywhere in the continental US, you must pass throught SEA.

SO... it seems rather baffling that Air Canada dosn't offer service! There must be enough traffic to Vancouver to justify a regional jet at the very least, wouldn't there be? And possibly even more service if you consider Vancouver to be at the very least a nice alternative hub to the lower 48 as Seattle, plus brings in the Star Alliance.

Oh well, just my thoughts....

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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 14863 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1089 times:
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It's not exactly a huge market, hence there's no direct air service. Realistically, the only time any such service would have high demand is for people who missed their cruise out of YVR and had to pick it up on day two in JNU.

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User currently offlineSquigee From Canada, joined May 2001, 652 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1078 times:

Don't forget these smaller airlines that aren't listed on Sabre's database:



Air North does fly YVR-JNU. Canadian North only does Calgary-JNU, but just hop a Westjet flight over here!

Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

SEA is the gateway to all Alaska cities.....Vancouver is not. Strange, but thats the way it is. Almost everyone travelling to cities in Alaska other than ANC must transit SEA, and a high percentage of pax to ANC also connect in SEA.

Air Canada's service between YVR and ANC is very, very new......I think it just started this summer and may be seasonal. The ANC market is bigger than Juneau; the cities in ANC are rather small, and rely on air service due to limited roads networks (or, in JNU's case, there are no roads in and out of that city.....one must fly out or take the ferry).

User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4349 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Remember, JNU is only 30,000 or so people. While YVR is a relatively popular destination out of Juneau, that still only translates to 4-5 people a day, maybe 10/day during the summer. FAI then PDX would make far more sense for N/S service out of Juneau.

Its not so strange that SEA is the gateway to Alaska vs. YVR. Up until the last 10 years or so air service between the US and Canada was very restricted, so what service there was out of Vancouver was focused south, not north. Plus it makes more sense to transfer in another US city (SEA) vs. a foreign port (YVR) when making your way between two US points.

For the record, besides Alaska, Juneau has been served by PanAm, Wein Air Alaska, Western (once in the 60s/70s then again in the 80s), Delta (after the purchase of WA) and MarkAir. PanAm and Western were required to give up the market by the CAB, and all of the others dropped Juneau after varying amounts of time. Air North has had service to YXY for several years, but only a couple of times a week. Canadian North has never served Juneau.

Sorry for rambling, but I got my start in the industry in Juneau, so I'm sorta fond of the town.


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User currently offlineScutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 428 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Makes sense...

I had figured that despite its size, Juneau's state capital status would generate some government travel to Canada. Guess not that much!

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

You raise a good point concerning govt traffic......I think there are 2 or 3 daily nonstop flights between JNU and ANC, with up to 4 or 5 flights per day in the summer to accommodate additional tourist traffic. The law makers and gove workers head to ANC during their time off, as ANC is Alaska's biggest city.

By the way, JNU is a great place......first time there was with AS 727-100s, second time with Wein Air Alaska 737-200C (from Whitehorse).

Can JNU take the 757?

User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

I'm from Sitka, 90 miles south of Juneau. And Delta used to serve Juneau, with flights from JNU-SFO.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 991 times:

C3 operated 2x weekly A320 YVR-ANC for the last few summers. AC picked up the route this year.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
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