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AA Suspends MCI-LGA  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33010 posts, RR: 71
Posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

American Airlines has suspened Kansas City-LaGuardia days before service starts. The suspension is until at least November. On the brighter side, rumorus are that American MAY be starting up Miami-Kansas City this fall.


a.
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User currently offlineAirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Any particular reason listed??
Tony


User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Greetings:

Not that I don't believe your but where did you read this, there's nothing on AMR's website about it? Some fact to back up your statement would be nice. American did some reasonably heavy advertising in Newsday about New York to Kansas city. Seems like a waste of money to now suspend the service.

Regards
Tom


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6225 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

Tbird it's not the first time AA does this, they have announced other routes and even before they start the service they might just push the startup date back or just not serve the route. Sometimes they do this because the flight is not selling as well as they would have predicted, there might be other reasons as well.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

We have been screaming!! for MIA svc and then AA goes and adds LGA svc. in a low yield Vanguard market..Not a good move..Not sad to see this move...You cant beat MIdwest Express for comfort and convenience on LGA-MCI..



User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

MIA is lacking domestically when it comes to cities west of the Mississippi.

There is a reason for that though, there is not a very large domestic market west of the Mississippi from Southern Florida. This is why Miami's domestic market is based mostly in the East and not so much out west.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33010 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

BA, the Miami-California market is huge, and Miami-Colorado, as you know, is very large too. The real reason for the lack of flights west is because the connecting oppurtunities are limited. Not saying your wrong, because the South Florida-West Coast market is not as huge as others, but it is still the 5th largest trans-con market, and that is nothing small.


a.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33010 posts, RR: 71
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

Oh yeah, and the source is that it is no longer bookable on aa.com. Also mentioned at both FlyerTalk and USAviation.


a.
User currently offline738_Driver From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

As I am the one that canceled it, let me confirm that it has indeed been defered.

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

what they do is "ZERO" out the flights, they dont' "cancel" them... which is why you probably went to "aa.com" to look it up.

think outside the box. Try ITN.NET and look up full availability.... :P if it's zero'd out, that means no one can sell it.... and check a few dates in the future... if it's still zero'd out, then you know it's non existent

-nate


User currently offline738_Driver From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

Well here you're wrong, Nate. It has indeed been canceled thru to at least November. This I know 100%

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

I'm suggesting how to TELL if a flight is being cancelled, before it's announced. United did this to JFK-HKG, it was zero'd out on every future flight... it was like that for about a week before they did the press release announcing it. United also did this for ORD-TVC, which never came to be.

I was suggesting that the user probably went to AA.COM to see if the flights were still there, and they probably were, just couldn't sell a seat on it.

-nate


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Not sure if this is true or not, the route is heavily promoted in the NY press, for reasons I cannot quite understand, I mean NYC-Kansas City is not exactly a high capacity, ultra-busy route, but AA did indeed cancel it, I can see why. Vanguard has the route and for a short time, so did Midwest Express. I don't really understand what American wants to do in the NY area. It says it is going to add flights then drops them (JFK-AMS is another example). American wants to be a major player in the NYC market (and it is) but it does face a lot of competition from Delta and JFK and LGA, Continental at EWR, and from JetBlue at JFK, not to mention US Airways, which despite its financial condition, is the second or third busiest carrier at LGA, behind #1 Delta.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Some of the flights were to be flown out of the STL crew base. I had a couple of pairings to choose from which already had the segments cancelled.

MIA-MCI should do well because of all the midwesterners who flock to the cruise ships and Carribean.TC



FL450, M.85
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

MAH4546,

California is different.  Smile

It's the most populated state in the entire country. California is ALWAYS an exception to anything.  Smile

Regarding Colorado, probably because of ski.

You guys down in southern Miami can't ski (except water ski) so you come up and flood Colorado.  Smile

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

I just got a promotional flyer in the mail yesterday from AA about this route. They really did spend some dough to promote this route. How weird they postpone it at the last minute.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineAirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

738_driver:
Are you allowed to share the reason the route was cancelled? if not i understand but i am curious to know why they cancelled it!

tony


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