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User currently offlineG-BOAA From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 18 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

Hello, hopefully somebody can help. I will be going on concorde soon with a few friends and I though it would be good for them to see the baby take off over thier heads while standing at the end of the runway.
So we are going to watch tuesday's BA 001.
Is the runway resurfacing still causing concorde to only use 1 runway? And if so which 1? The 27L, R confuse me, I know them as the runway adjacent terminal 4 and the 1 adjacent terminals 1, 2. Is this just for takeoff or can concorde only use this one for landing as well.
When does the BA 002 move back to its 4 or 5pm slot?
Thanks
John

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User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 1574 times:

Naming an airport might help.


Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineAamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1061 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 1570 times:

Runway resurfacing and 27L/R would indicate he is on about Heathrow.

Regards,
A^A MD-11


User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 1563 times:

Obviously, but still. :p


Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 1548 times:

Re-surfacing is on 27L so it takes off on 27R/9L all the time and lands on the same runway.Tuesday is going to have Easterly winds so the best place to be on the perimeter road near the car parks and small company huts.Beware though-I stood underneath a Concorde takeoff today for the first time and its the loudest thing I've ever heard by a long way!The ground shakes quite a bit too!Glad I live so near to the airport!


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 1541 times:
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Just to clear up your confusion with runways:

The plane taking off in the picture is taking off from 27L

The runway in the background is 27R


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The other runway is R23, which intersects both 27 and 27R, but this runway is hardly ever used.



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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 1534 times:

August 1 is when BA2 lands at 1725 again.

User currently offlineG-BOAA From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Thanks for all the info. Yes I should have mentioned airport, forgot to in my excitement, We all make mistakes. So on tuesday I beleve that she will be taking off from the runway adjacent to terminal 1 and heading in the direction of central London.
I have never seen concorde take off from this runway direction and heard that the reheats were shut down early. We will be standing right at the end of the runway, so will the reheats be turned off by the time she goes over our heads and hence the takeoff quieter? GDB, Gordon ?


User currently offlineGordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1393 times:

As she crosses over the perimeter fence she is still under full power...just listen for the car alarms! The re-heats get turned off at what looks to be the same time as 09R departures.

It depends on what crew are flying as to how soon the turn is started. I have seen her just starting to turn as she passes overhead or having been at a good bank angle with a turn being put in right after T/O

Best place I have found for watching these T/Os is at the end of the runway, at the entrance to the staff car park next to the hire car (Budget?) entrance. You may need to park your car a litte away as sometimes the LHR jobsworthies move you on. One night for an arrival there were 10 cars of so parked there and they tried to move them on, even through Concorde as on short finals, the twat only have to wait for 30 seconds and everyone would have been gone anyway.

There are a few 1 foot high red and white road bollards things that you can stand on that allow you to look right down the runway as she lines up, departs and flies (nearly) overhead Smile/happy/getting dizzy)


Gordon.


User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

Is Concorde restricted to 09L/27R for landing as well? I'm also going down to LHR for BA001s departure on Tuesday so I might G-BOAA (the person - the plane's still grounded!) there. Do quite a few people normally gather at the end of the runway at 10.30?

Shamrock_747


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

Yes it lands on 27R all the time.But then for the next 2 weeks everything lands on 27R as the 27L/9R ILS is being upgraded.

User currently offlineGordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Shamrock_747

Yes quite a few people gather at the end of the runway, especially at weekends. This picture was taken at the end of a 27R departure a few Sundays ago.



The wind has changed in the past hour so tomorrow possibly could be a 09L. I may pop down and stand and the end at the entrance to budget rent a car if on 09L, please say hello!

If you really want to see G-BOAA (the aircraft), walk up the road from the BA hangers towards Hatton cross. G-BOAA is stored in 'hanger 16' behind the old Trident.


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Nice shot at the moment of 3 Concordes in the hanger opposite the A30-AC,AD and another one.Plus a 4th and 5th were on the other side of the matx base.Leaving -AA in hanger 16 and another one somewhere!Hopefully I'll be down tomorrow morning to try and get a pic of it in the turn to WOD.

User currently offlineJrb44 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Donder10, thanks for the useful info. Presumably on completion of the ILS work the alternation sequence will be picked up as it would have been, i.e. morning takeoffs from 27R for week ending 18 August (if I've kept track properly)?

Ta,

James



jrb44
User currently offlineGordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Donder 10

The 7th Concorde you talk about is G-BOAB. This is in storage in the hanger to the left of the main majors hanger where the 3 were on show last night. This is the hanger in Tech Block A that was not modified to handle 747 in the 80s.

G-BOAG is in the majors area surrounded by the access platforms.

I would guess G-BOAB would be moved into the majors area for her mod when G-BOAG is complete from the works that are presently on-going . It would make sence for BA to then move G-BOAA into the empy storage area to be next to the rest of the fleet, but who knows how BA management think!


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

OAB should go in for mods in December, if they are approved, they probably will be, but the penny-pinching has reached epic proportions I'm afraid.
Between OAG completing it's big Inter 3 check around Sept./Oct and hopefully OAB being returned to flight, the Majors dock will probably be used for service checks.
Currently, a small team is test fitting the new lavs/galleys to OAB, to ensure that when they are fitted to operational aircraft, it goes smoothly.
But it could well be that OAB is the first in pax service with the new lavs/galleys if the return to flight mods are approved for it, that would be about April time.
The 40 min delay on today's BA001 was caused by ATC, we understand it was military related, as the SR-71 has been retired, possibly a Global Hawk unmanned reconnaissance drone at our cruising altitudes?


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1113 times:

I just got to the N2 staff car park about 5 mins before it took off. (car park is right by the 09L threshold) Was standing at the bus stop and was just thinking to myself that I hadn't seen anything take off in the time I was there, and thats when it started !!!.

It was just a slight muffled rumbleing noise at first, thought it was the building works behind me, but it started to get louder, and louder but I still couldn't see anything, then all of a sudden from behind the car rental buildings, out she popped, just starting to rotate, then by the time she got level with me the main wheels had just lifted, about 10-20 ft off the ground, there was a brief dip in the noise levels as those Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593 turbojets were level with me, then OH MY GOD, the ground was shaking and you could feel the vibrations through your body as she roared into the sky, with 4 reheats glowing and a trail of browny/yellowy smoke behind. Thats when the car alarms voiced their approval by giving us a chorus of their delightful tunes, and just as quickly as it started, it was over for another day.  Big thumbs up

Why don't all a/c sound like that, aeroplanes are supposed to be noisy, washing machines and fridges are supposed to be quiet.  Big grin



"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
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