LeoDF From Mexico, joined Aug 1999, 359 posts, RR: 6 Posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2458 times:
Aeromexico finally took a decision and said that they will replace their ageing fleet of Dc-9's with leased 737-600. These will be received from this year till 2004. They will lease a total of 15.
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2384 times:
LeoDF,
You mentioned that AM will be replacing the DC-9s with the 736, does this replacement program include the MD-80s/87s currently in Aeromexico's fleet ?
I hope to see some of these here at IAH soon. Frankly, I am getting a little bored with those 'Mad Dog 80s'.
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days ago) and read 2345 times:
Thomasphoto60,
This is called as name Burford 'Mad Dog' Tannen on the movie as Back to the Future part III. It's is in the old west by the back into 1885. It's is bad person on the wild wild old west. Well, hope you will like this one!!!!
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2303 times:
Hi Scotty,
I do indeed remember the character from BTF3.
My reference to 'Mad Dog' was to the 'MD' in MD-80. I have also heard the terms 'Mega Death' as well as 'Skid Buggies' for the MD-80 series.
Flynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2280 times:
Is there a possibility of Aeromexico fitting winglets on their new birds? Are winglets even an option on the 736? It seems to me that they are common on the 737-700 and -800 models. Winglets would certainly give their new birds an added touch.
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2229 times:
Thanks Ghost,
Too bad we won't see the AM 736 stateside anytime soon.
SR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 753 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
Hey Thomas !
I wouldn't be too worried, the DC-9s didn't fly to the US cause of the noise restrictions. So I'm sure you will see the 737-600 in the US on some routes.
I really can't believe the decision has been taken, it took ages !! but it isn't really surprising
Can't wait to see the 737-600 here in Tijuana, hope to work on one ASAP !
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5128 posts, RR: 53 Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
Yeap, perhaps I´m wrong but I don´t thing soo... those 736s will have almost the same capacity as the Dc9s plus another 20 so I think that´s more considered for domestic routes.
MD87s got around 135 pax
MD80s near 150 pax
Probably when AM stands to the point of getting rid of the MD80s maybe we shall see some 737-700 or 800s.....
ghost77
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2958 posts, RR: 30 Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2205 times:
i am glad to here that AM is getting 737-600 to replace their DC-9s.
Yayyy for AeroMexico, Hmm probably the 737-800 has the chance of replacing some old MD 80s
ARN From Sweden, joined Feb 2001, 253 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2157 times:
SAS is apparently not very satisfied with their 736s. The fuelconsumption is too high for a brand new aircraft like that and the 736 is very sensitive when it comes to turbulence. This is due to the combination of a modest length, wide wings and a long tailfin.
I was recently on a SK flight between NCE and CPH performed by a 736. The aircraft was shaking so much during the entire flight for over 2 hrs. that it was impossible to eat or drink anything. When we were on the ground a crewmember confessed that this was not very uncommon for a 736. According to some sources SK is however very pleased with the 737-700 and 800-series.
But perhaps AMX still have a possibility to go for the A319 instead?
FBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2124 times:
ARN is completely correct on SAS' experience with the 736.It is presently on the top of the SAS "transfer list" but so far no takers.Airbus proposed to take the 736's as part payment for additional A32x orders a few years ago but not anymore!As the operational expenses and flying qualities of the 736 became known,almost all orders for the type were changed to the 737-700 and the 737-800.In SAS,the -700 is just "so-so",while the -800 is in fact a money-maker.Unless Aeromexico/Boeing would consider leasing the 736's from SAS,it seems we will be stuck with these "piglets" forever.
LeoDF From Mexico, joined Aug 1999, 359 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2070 times:
Nop, the MD-87's and MD'80's will still be in the fleet, as a matter of fact, they are still receiving or recieved MD-87's not long ago. 737's are exclusively for DC-9's
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2001 times:
Interesting choice and good for Boeing......the 736 will replace the DC9-30s still in service, and, hopefully AM will follow up with orders for the larger members of the 737NG family to replace, over time, the MD80s family aircraft. I think that AM will be very interested in the 738, which is a far more flexible aircraft than the MD80s, and operate transborder flights from MEX and other cities to just about any destination in the US, Canada and the northern half of South America.
As for the 736 not riding as well as other members of the 737NG family, these reports are far exagerated and the 736 does not handle much differently than the 735, or the "original 737-200", all of which have about the same length fuselage. SAS was not 100% satisfied with the 736's fuel economy, but it is well within the parameters set forth by Boeing.....it is not unusual for the smallest member of an aircraft family to have the "worst" fuel characteristics when analyzed on a fuel per seat basis.
Flynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1960 times:
Dutchjet has a good point. If the 737-600 operates so poorly and uneconomically, why does Boeing continue to market the product? SAS may not be 100% satisfied with the product, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's a bad product. The 736 simply didn't meet their expectations.
GD727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 925 posts, RR: 11 Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1944 times:
Good, they went Boeing! Great choice Aeromexico!
-GD727
Mmmm forbidden donut.
25 QatarAirways: "As for the 736 not riding as well as other members of the 737NG family, these reports are far exagerated and the 736 does not handle much differently
26 FBU 4EVER!: QuatarAirways mentions part of the problem re. wingspan.This problem is compounded by the fact that the yaw damper is far too slow in operation.This m
27 Cx340: Well I hope the "bad riding through turbulence" comments are a little exagerated, because the skies over Mexico (specially central and north eastern)
28 M27: Cx340 There is a current story on bloomberg newswire that says they are BUYING 15 700'S, so I don't really know! I would post the link, but it is so l
29 Am777: Yes Aeromexico will go for the 700 version not the 600, great news this is the link at a local newspaper, in spanish: http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/i
30 Cx340: Great!! If what El Financiero says is true, I hope they put some of those HUGE winglets on them!!
31 Ghost77: Hello everyone, Yesterday I went to MMMX for spotting, saw my friend from AeroMexico and he told me it was not a -600 order... it´s -700 series.... 1
32 Cx340: Winglets please!! They will look so coll with the Am livery
33 RJ_Delta: Finally a good decision for AeroMexico. The Boeing 737NG are perfect for AeroMexico. I hope that the company considerthe Boeing 737-900 for high densi
34 AKelley728: I'm sure the decision to go with the 737ng was in no small part influenced by Skyteam partner Delta's significant fleet of 737ngs. I forsee in the nea
35 AM744: I'm assuming those airplanes are brand new. Is that correct?
36 Mexicana757: Glad to here its the 737-700 and not the 600. Carry more passenger, a few more. Can't wait to see some of those 737-700 in the US.
37 Archie: YEEEEPEEE!!!! I love AM and I would love to see those 737-700 soon!!! Good news. Ghost77, Are you sure about the 800 series or is that a rumor? Como e
38 IB6400: Hi! WOW!! Excellent!! Great News!! I just can't wait to see those 737 in the AM's livery... Can't wait to see soon some artist impressions or pictures
39 Ghost77: Archie, Nope, it´s not a rumor it´s a fact, of course first the are receiving the 737-700 and then 800s are next! And Yes, I remember you... let me
40 Archie: Ghost77, Thanks, at what time will you be there? Is it Sunday or Saturday? Regards, Archie
41 Ghost77: Around 2 to 3 p.m. Opps I mean Sunday 10, era ya la desvelada haha.... ghost77
42 Archie: Sale, espero poder llegar ahi el Domingo. Saludos, Archie.