TG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1000 times:
Each different fare level has a booking class assigned to it. For instance, the businessman sitting next to you may have a ticket booked in 'M' class, which is fully refundable, flexible, and expensive, whereas you may be travelling on an 'L' class ticket, which might be nonrefundable and very cheap. 'Y' class is always the highest economy fare - fully refundable, with no charge for amendments.
If airlines didn't have these differing fare 'buckets', it would make accounting very difficult!
A reservations agent for XYZ airlines might have the following fares on their screen for a London to New York ticket.
Y 1000 fully refundable, changes free of charge
M 800 fully refundable, $100 per change
H 600 50% refundable, $300 per change
L 300 non refundable, changes require upgrading to H fare
W 150 non refundable, no changes permitted
The airlines route control department may have assigned 30 seats in XYZ's 747 as 'W' class, 50 as 'L' class, 100 as 'H' class, 150 as 'M' class, and the remainder as 'Y' class. That's how the airline makes a profit on every flight - by making sure not every passenger is paying the rockbottom, lossmaking 'W' fare. So when 30 people have bought a W fare level, anyone else wanting to buy a ticket on the flight will have to buy an 'L' class fare or higher.
I hope this makes sense. Sorry for rabbiting on a bit!
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4402 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 981 times:
Your aircraft, likely an Airbus, has about 20 Business class seats (5 abreast).
If you have any status with your Virgin or possible BMI or any Star Alliance card, you will get upgraded easily. I had the cheapest possible R/T this weekend AMS-LHR (70 Euro + tax) and my silver United FF card made me upgraded -I didn't bother to ask as I felt I didn't deserve any frills for this price- on both sectors, enjoying nice china plates with fruit and salad meals and drinks in seat 1A both ways.
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Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 947 times:
"Your aircraft, likely an Airbus, has about 20 Business class seats (5 abreast)."
All depends on the booked load, as to how many seats will be allocated to Business class. Bmi have a moveable cabin devider so can increase/decrease the amount of seats depending on the booked loads in each cabin for each particular flight. (the curtain row is set by the Dm on shift the previous night.)
Minimum will be 1st, 3 rows, but is usually more depending on flight time. The teatime flights will almost all be Business seats, whilst a mid afternoon flight will be mainly econ seats.
The only differance in service o/b is what you get to eat. In business you get a 3 course meal (snack) served on proper plates and a seat thats about 2 inches wider, whilst in econ you get a pre packed sandwich, and a slightly smaller seat. In both classes, the rest of the service (and leg room) is the same.
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