Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, RR: 65 Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
From "Ferris Bueller's Day Off",...."anyone, anyone...?"
Forum moderator 2001-2010; He's a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless st
Gordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 21 Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1778 times:
AF Arrival - 08:45
BA Arrival - 09:25
AF Departure 08:00
BA Departure 12:20 till 30th July, 08:30 from 1st Aug (no departure on 31st)
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, RR: 65 Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
Are these all AM? nad hte 1220 is PM, I would assume?
Same sched. every day and weekends too?
Forum moderator 2001-2010; He's a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless st
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12708 posts, RR: 80 Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1593 times:
The retiming of the BA002 to it's original 08:30 am slot, is now planned to be on the 4th August.
A BA aircraft will position out on Saturday 3rd to allow this, however, these plans may yet be revised due to operational considerations.
During August, BA plan to substitute the JFK flight with a BGI on the Saturday.
More details to follow.
RickB From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1524 times:
GDB, I take it this will mean the the BA001 Concorde will overnight at JFK before returning on the next day's BA002? Seems like an awful waste of an aircraft to have it sitting there for 20 hours each day !!
BigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4073 posts, RR: 56 Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1509 times:
Any easy way to know when the BA takes off, is that it only departs on days that end with "y". lol
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, RR: 65 Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Ok, thanks for your clarification. As I understand it,
AF arrives on M, W, Th, F and Sun @ 0845 EST
BA arrives everyday except saturdays @ 0925 EST
-------------------------------------
AF departs M, W, Th, F and Sun @ 0800 EST
BA departs everyday except SAT @ 1220 EST (til 8/4, when it will then lv @ 0830)
That's the most accurate description?? If so, thanks on the behalf of mirrodie and bigphilnyc.
PS..... " BA plan to substitute the JFK flight with a BGI on the Saturday "
WhAT is a BGI??
Forum moderator 2001-2010; He's a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless st
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1488 times:
Gordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 21 Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1489 times:
RickB
I'm sure I may be corrected - Under normal circumstances the morning BA001 arrival aircraft would not normally wait for 20 hours but depart early afternoon as the BA004 for an LHR arrival at around 22:15 GMT. The Inbound BA003 arriving at around 18:00 EST would then fly out the BA002 at 08:30 EST.
With the aircraft staying at JFK for 20hours overnight allows the serrvice to be re-timed to the correct BA002 times which has a noticable increase in passenger loads.
It also offers a much more robust service as any faults that develop on the inbound aircrtaft have time available to be corrected to save any cancellations. if the fault can't be corrected in the 20 hrs a quick turnaround of the BA001 means only a couple of hours delay.
To operate 2 services a day(BA1/2) it takes 2 aircraft, but for 4 services(BA1/2/3/4) only 3 aircraft are needed.
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, RR: 65 Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
We are planning to hang oput Friday AM at JFK to catch 4 concorde movements b/w 8 and 10 AM.
They use ANY runway at JFK right? I remember in the 80's that they were not restricted to any runway. Does that still hold true?
Forum moderator 2001-2010; He's a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless st
BigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4073 posts, RR: 56 Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1397 times:
Yeah, we need to find out about runways, and THEN we need to find a good position to spot from so we can watch them.
SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16 Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1362 times:
Could someone PLEASE add am/pm!!! I do not understand how the plane could arrive at 8:45 and leave at 8:00...so please add am/pm.
Thanks
-Will
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, RR: 65 Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1313 times:
My gut says they will t/o on 31L or one of the 22's.
did you check any spotting guides/info in the hobby /photo
Forum moderator 2001-2010; He's a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless st
Shamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1291 times:
SafetyDude,
All the posts on this subject all either have am/pm or use the 24 hour clock (ie 8am is 0800 and 8pm is 2000). Air France overnight their Concordes at JFK, so the aircraft that arrives at 0845 leaves at 0800 the next day.
BigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4073 posts, RR: 56 Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1278 times:
I'm actually guessing they will use 13R, which is 31L, but in the opposite direction.
For noise abatement, 13R takes them over less people.
EastCoast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
Phil -
The Concorde most likely departs 31L, that's what they prefer. For a 31L departure, Cross Island Parkway, right next to the Cross Bay Bridge will provide great visual access.
Sponsor Message: 
From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7419 posts, 
From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, 
lol
Printer friendly format 
