Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1540 times:
According to their CEO in the current USA Today chat transcript, they are taking 20 717 deliveries next year, which will include the TW ones. I guess they reached a deal w/Boeing/Pembroke. It also looks final that no new aircraft until at least '04.
DeltaBoy777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 411 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1499 times:
Interesting!! I think this may be the start of a new route system in AirTran. Possibly even spreading more westward.
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
Deltaboy: I don't think anything real interesting next year, unless they announce even more deliveries. They are planning to retire the last 16 DC9s next year, which will net 4 more aircraft. Although, on the other hand, Leonard did say 3-5 cities next year, so a new aircraft, or more 717s may come up in '03.
717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1483 times:
Good for both the 717 and Airtran. Airtran can add cheap aircraft and mostly all of the parked 717's will be gone and interested airlines have to buy factory new ones...!
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1291 times:
It is good to see that AirTran will take those ex-TWA a/c; especially since they originally said they were not interested in them. The ironic thing is that AirTran as you may recall, actually entered into merger talks with TWA, but broke them off because of the amount of debt TWA had, and the bad lease terms they had on their a/c. AirTran will end up with some TWA pieces anyway. 3-5 new cities next year, in addition to at least 1 or 2 more this year; my bet on the next city is Kansas City, no explaination needed.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1280 times:
It is good to see that AirTran will take those ex-TWA a/c; especially since they originally said they were not interested in them.
Where did AirTran say that they were not interested in these planes? Joe Leonard specifically mentioned in the Q4 '01 earnings call that they were interested and seeking to acquire them. It's been pretty obvious since then that it was simply a matter of time before the lease terms were finalized with BCC.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1256 times:
When AA announced that they were returning the TWA 717s, Boeing asked AirTran if they were interested. They originally declined the aircraft because of the different galley arrangement. AirTran was wanting to kept a standardized fleet, but I guess they chucked that out when the leased the Pembroke birds, which have a different galley layout than the AirTran specs. AirTran's DC-9 fleet was (and is) a mix and match aircraft, each with different layouts. You have the ex-Delta DC-9s, the ex-British Midland ones, the ex-THY birds, the ex-Swissair birds, all with differing set ups. AirTran wanted originally to have a uniform fleet with respect to the 717, I guess things change.
Travatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2172 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1109 times:
I hate the Vuelamex 717s...sincerely hope the TWA birds are better.
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