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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

MAS' B777 are ETOPS certified for how many minutes? can they do transpacific with that a/c?

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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Lets just say that they flew non-stop from SEA to KUL during the delivery. Also the sector from Dubai - Newark (MH 90) is almost 14 hours long. So can they do trans-Pacific? I would think so...


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

By the way, Malaysia Airlines' 777-200s were christened "Long-Ranger", but they have since taken that decal off. Dunno why. I have flown the MAS 777s a few times... absolute comfort.


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User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

I would assume their Boeing 777-2H6ERs operate the usual 180mins ETOPS if applicable.

User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1858 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Ryanair!!!:

The SEA-KUL flight was not a delivery flight. It was a Boeing demo round-the-world flight using an aircraft that would soon be delivered to MAS. The plane flew eastbound to KUL via the Atlantic and eastbound back to SEA via the Pacific.


User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Ryanair!!!

ETOPS of the airline is not taken into account on delivery flights. SQ's B772ERS fly direct from Seattle too.



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

so the super rangers are 180 minutes certified ? if yes they currently dont utilise it do they? i was thinking wouldnt it be good if they deploy this a/c to fly to Vancouver? I think there is a demand for flights to YVR from south east asia or east asia?

User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

There are demands from East Asia to Vancouver, especially from Hong Kong. However, there are insufficient demand from Malaysia to Vancouver to generate a direct flight. Other airlines that operate indirectly to Vancouver includes SIA, Cathay Pacific, Eva Air, China Airlines, JAL, Korean Air etc. With so many options to choose from, MAS can't really compete with these airlines that offer better connections/freqeuncies than MAS.

If they manage to get fifth freedom rights at Hong Kong, which I doubt they will, then it would be a good idea to operate KUL-HKG-YVR. Their previous attempt to serve Vancouver was a failure was due to the fact that the Taiwanese authorities refused to give MAS fifth freedom rights at Taipei for Taipei-Vancouver sector.

I spoke to the inflight supervisor recently and he told me that MAS will not expand much in the Americas. They are looking at new stopovers to New York, with Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm and Munich being considered as the stopover city, apart from Dubai. If they will launch a new destination in the Americas, his best bet would be San Francisco. As far as I know, MAS did announced its intention to serve SFO, but the 1997 economy crisis came in. Obtaining fifth freedom rights at key cities is also difficult.

Regards.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Hmm... regarding that SEA - KUL thingie, I got it from one of their Going Places inflight mags from some years ago. Could be wrong then...

Anyway, I am sure the "Long-Rangers" can do a trans-Pacific flight anytime.



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User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Ryan: weren't they called "World Rangers"? Somehow "Long Rangers doesn't ring a bell with me....

User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1858 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

Ryan is correct. It is (or was) called the Long Rangers.

User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Hi,

I flew on 9M-MRA once in 1998. This aircraft was the one that did the SEA-KUL non-stop, and they showed a documentary of the record breaking flight onboard.

Tsentsan



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User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

I think you would find that the Boeing 777-2H6ERs are called the "Super Rangers" by MAS...

User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

So we are ALL wrong then! Hahahaha... "Super Rangers" it is then... Anyway, the whole purpose of this thread was to determine whether the "Super-Long-Rangers" could do a trans-Pacific flight right?

Seriously, were they called "Super Rangers"? I thought "Long Rangers" sounded more like it...

Whatever it is, I think they should let the decal stay on. Just like SQ's Celestars, Jubilees, Big / Megatops, it allows the public to relate better to the planes they fly on. Don't you think so?

I thought of the following names for MH's aircraft...

747-400 (Big Daddy)
777-200 (Long Ranger... no change there)
A330-300 (Kak Mas {Golden Sister})
737-400 (Baby Bobby)

I shall leave the Fokker 50s and DHC Twin Otters out of this.



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

yeh the reason of this topic is to determine whether the SUPER rangers have eTOPS 180 minute certification?!

User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

We'll make the 773ER the "Super-Long-World-Ranger" if they get them! As far as decals go I guess it makes sense from a marketing and brand identity standpoint, but most of them are cheesy. I hope SQ doesn't call the A380 "Gigatop" or something.



User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Or what about 100%top? *wink*


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User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1858 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2963 times:

Well, Mas777 is correct. According to the 1997 Annual Report, the B777 was called a Super Ranger by MAS. But the Super Ranger reference disappeared in the 1998 Annual Report.

User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

I think the 777 was christened the Super Ranger as part of a plan to revamp its corporate livery. At about this time, names also started appearing in earnest across the 747 fleet (each named after a state capital in Malaysia). Malaysia Airlines was toying with the idea of repainting their aircraft in a ultramarine blue livery with the Malaysian crescent and 14-pointed star in gold.

All these plans were scrapped as MAS balance sheets slipped into the red and (as we all know) continued to slide deeper into the red.

I think it will be nice to name MAS' aircraft. In tandem with KLMs fleet (  Smile ) my suggestion would to perhaps name each 747 and 777 after a long-haul destination, each A330 after a regional city, each 737 after Malaysian towns, rivers and natural landmarks, each F50 after a local flower and each Twin Otter after a local animal or similar.

ps... Personally, I don't like travelling on aircraft named after dead people - call me superstitious...


User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan.... what could you possibly be talking about?!?

So, I guess no one here knows about their ETOPS, huh?


User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1858 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

Sorry, I don't know for certain if MAS has 180-minute ETOPS. But I think I know what Ryan's 100%top refers to. Since Ex_SQer said he hoped SQ wouldn't call the A380 "Gigatop", Ryan suggested that it could be called 100%top, because the A380 is a full double-decker. Am I right, Ryan?

User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

Dynkrisolo: Actually that was a private joke between Ryan and myself. You need to be a member of our club to understand the reference! Wanna join our club?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

How many minutes of ETOPS is required to fly trans-Atlantic? MAS operate their B777 on the DXB-EWR route, which overfly the Atlantic. And also, MAS used to operate B777 on the KUL-JNB route, which overfly the Indian Ocean. Is ETOPS 120 sufficient for all these routes?

User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

Anyone knows why MH chose DXB instead of some European city as the stop-over point enroute to EWR?

Ryan suggested that it could be called 100%top, because the A380 is a full double-decker

Yeah....makes alot of sense...can't fault that explaination  Wink/being sarcastic
I think christening SQ's A380 "chub-top" would be appropriate too...



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User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 719 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Asked MAS B777 Engineer in Kuala Lumpur a few days ago and he advised they have 180 ETOPS.


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25 Ryanair!!! : There was a period they flew the A330s to Johannesburg as well. Actually their A330s reach far and wide with the likes of Istanbul, Perth, Brisbane, F
26 Mas777 : MAS operated the A330 to Madrid at one-point. MAS chose to operate via Dubai into Newark as it offered the only nonstop service from Dubai to NY at th
27 Timz : Someone asked what ETOPS is required to cross the Atlantic. You recall that some aircraft were/are approved for 138 minutes? Supposedly that figure wa
28 Ryanair!!! : The service to EWR is indeed hot! It is very well demanded and i was supposed to be on MH 90 last Thurs... but i cancelled the trip because of all the
29 Ex_SQer : They once flew to MAD via DXB and IST.
30 BWIA 772 : Mas777 perhaps KLM should do what BWIA did put the zip code of their caribbean destinations as part of the a/c registrations. 9Y-GEO= Guyana 9Y-POS= T
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