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LAX Security Confiscate British Grandmas M16 Rifle  
User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5487 times:



The gun seized by security (actual size) Big grin

Tue, Aug 6, 2002

AIRPORT security staff confiscated a TWO-INCH plastic gun from a toy soldier, it was revealed yesterday.


British tourist Judy Powell, 55, bought a GI Joe doll in America as a gift for her seven-year-old grandson George.

Security officials at Los Angeles airport found the toy — similar to Action Man — when they searched Judy’s bags before she boarded a flight to London.

Then they took the figure out of its box and confiscated its tiny replica Armalite rifle.

Judy revealed: “They examined the toy as if it was going to shoot them.

“Then they asked me if there were toy grenades as well. I thought they were joking, but they weren’t smiling — they were deadly serious.”

Judy, from Walton-on-the-Hill, Surrey, added: “I couldn’t believe it.

“I can understand them wanting to ban weapons or things that look like weapons, but surely common sense has to take over at some point.

“I was really angry at first because of the absurdity of the situation, but then I saw the funny side and realised it was simple lunacy.

“The whole world is going mad if we resort to such stupid measures.”

Judy, who bought Beanie Babies for her other grandchildren, joked: “At least THEY weren’t subjected to body searches.”

George’s mum Becky, 29, said the lad was “really upset” when he realised his GI Joe had been disarmed.

She said: “Even though he’s seven years old George knew the toy was missing an important part.

“I explained what had happened, but he just kept shaking his head saying it was silly and ‘Don’t those people understand the gun was a toy? and couldn’t shoot’.”

Airport security has been tightened since the terrorist attacks of September 11, and airlines can now ban anything resembling a weapon.

Security chiefs at Los Angeles airport said: “We have instructions to confiscate anything that looks like a weapon or a replica.

“If GI Joe was carrying a replica then it had to be taken from him.”



http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002360334,00.html/




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User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5334 times:

You're posting a sotry from the SUN?

You should be slapped.

It's not real, just so you know.




Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

The death of common sense in America. Sadly, I am not surprised.

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

They probably confiscated it because the M16 is a heap of junk. If GI Joe had been equipped with an AK47 he'd have had no problems. Big grin

User currently offlineBroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5273 times:

I'm feeling safer and safer everyday I read stories like this.  Yeah sure

User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5212 times:
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I can understand the security-concious attitude at US airports, but some common sense has to prevail, i mean, what's a 55 year old Brit gonna do to harm security?  Nuts



In Arsene we trust!!
User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

I think he'll be better off with a LAW or a RPG  Smile


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

I'm surprised they didn't evacuate the terminal.

User currently onlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8234 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

Just be happy she didnt purchase a toy tank to go along with it.


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User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

Get one CREDIBLE news source....not another gossip mag (and that's putting it politely)...to verify this, and I'll believe it. I hope to God this does not represent a "credible" news organization in the UK.




Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5122 times:

How friggin stupid can these people be? Airport security people need to be rounded up and have brain transplants.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5120 times:
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Soon they're gonna be confiscating barbie dolls!  Big grin



In Arsene we trust!!
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

Tools have their place in society. As least they didn't take her to jail.


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineOz777 From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

Credible news source - well let's try the BBC!!!

Real funny how none of the American media have picked this up (from what I can see), but sadly it represents the absolute IDIOCY of the screening process.

My last trip out of the USA, I had to unpack and dismantle a model train because it had "wires" in it. Fortunately ANZ held the aircraft (I was a premium pax) while LAX security looked for a method to power the train to see if it worked.

Perhaps if the USA was not quite as arrogant, and looked at how other countries who have a long history of local terrorism, handle situations then your wonderful country would not be fast becoming the butt of everone's jokes from around the world.

Actually I think that the "security" at an airport will not stop the next act of terrorism. If you pay workers a pittance, eventually a dissenting power will offer one of those people a lot of money to circumvent the process. Hell, the Russians did it to the UK and USA for 40 years!!!

Oz777



User currently offlineTommyBoy From United States of America, joined May 2000, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Hey Oz777,

You should thank us for "fast becoming the butt of everone's jokes from around the world"......maybe they'll stop laughing at you Aussies!


User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5048 times:

Show me the BBC story to confirm it then. I know that the UK has credible news sources...this supermarket tabloid not being one of them. Show me something credible.

In my experience, Oz777, if you want to observe arrogance, you call up Canberra claiming to represent an Asian nation and listen to the lecture you receive.





Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineOz777 From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5057 times:

Tell me TommyBoy - when was the last time the "world" (and I just don't mean the USA) laughed at us Aussies.

Was it because we showed the world how an Olympic Games should be run - or is it we began "grilling" executives of failed companies as a matter of course!!!

Oh I know - it was when we stopped some illegal immigrants from entering our country by using a Norwegian Container ship.

Yep, that's it!!!

But on a more serious note, most of the terrorist "actions' have involved aircraft with a destination in the USA. That means that checking people "leaving" the USA are not the real threat. Yes I understand that it might then create a window of opportunity, but again, passengers who have flown in and are leaving present a different profile - just ask about how Customs (and most Immigration jurisdictions) profile the people they want to question. Far more scientific that confiscating a tiny plastic toy, imported from China and sold in a US store.

Oz777

Oz777


User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5057 times:

No kidding! but the story from BBC is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2173150.stm



"A doll caused a security alert at an American airport because its two-inch plastic gun was considered a dangerous weapon.
Judy Powell, 55, from Walton on the Hill, Surrey, bought the GI Joe toy in Las Vegas and packed it in her hand luggage.

But security staff at Los Angeles International Airport refused to let Mrs Powell on board the plane with the replica rifle.

Mrs Powell had to put the gift - minus the rifle - in her suitcase so it could go in the aircraft's hold.



If GI Joe was carrying a replica then it had to be taken from him

Los Angeles International Airport

Mrs Powell said: "I was simply stunned when I realised they were serious.

"Security examined the toy as if it was going to shoot them and looked at the rifle.

"I was really angry to start with because of the absurdity of the situation.

"But then I saw the funny side of it and thought this was simple lunacy."

A spokesman for Los Angeles International Airport said: "We have instructions to confiscate anything that looks like a weapon or a replica.

"If GI Joe was carrying a replica then it had to be taken from him." " - BBC






User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

That's what I was looking for. An actual source. Why it would be played up into some major story, I have no idea, other than America-bashing is fashionable these days. Also, the added security on outgoing international flights had always been standard...to answer your ?'s about outbound flights.

I chalk this one up to the general ignorance and stupidity of LAX employees. A few years back, when going through security at LAX in the international terminal bound for Indonesia, for some reason they asked me to go to one line, and my wife to go to another. I went through and looked back, only to find Mr. Plastic Badge trying to pick up on my wife, and pulling her underwear out of her carry on. I went over, put the stuff back in her bag and asked for his supervisor, who turned out to be his buddy who split us into different lines to begin with. He then took her fake Swiss army knife key chain, opened the fake plastic knife and told her she would have to walk all the way back to the Garuda ticket counter to have it checked in....it was a lock blade, he said. I took the keys off, handed it to him, and told him to give it to his kid for Christmas, as he probably knew how to turn this thing that couldn't even cut a banana into a weapon. LAX will definitely have to look beyond the public housing projects for security screeners in the future.

This sort of thing has been a problem at LAX and some other airports for a while. Another convenient bit for European news outlets to pick up on in their quest to belittle the United States. Way to use up bandwidth!




Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineFoxHunter From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5001 times:

I had a F/O that was returning home on NWA from Honolulu with his wife and 5 year old son. His son's GI Joe weapons were seized by security. After he boarded with his wife, and crying son, he was able to talk to the Captain. The Captain left the aircraft, went to security and retrieved the weapon.

If pilots flew airplanes using the same level of judgement used by the TSA from the top down we would all be dead within a year.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5007 times:

I'm affraid to say this but the US has gone nuts  Nuts

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4985 times:

I'm affraid to say this but the US has gone nuts

Would you rather that this grandmother hijacked the plane and killed millions of civilians with a 2-inch plastic gun? Big grin


User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4965 times:

OK....thread's complete, you can shut off the lights and lock up now. Hkgspotter got his ignorant jab in at the United States.



Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineJmacias34 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4955 times:

Our tax dollars at work...

User currently offlineBroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

Does anyone know what BOHICA stands for? Well, this is a case of BOHICA. Tell you later, if you can't guess.

25 Broke : No guess on BOHICA? Sigh!! Oh well, here it is. Bend Over Here It Comes Again!! Now smile nice to the security person!!
26 Nik : "Another convenient bit for European news outlets to pick up on in their quest to belittle the United States." *Yawn* "Why it would be played up into
27 Cwapilot : *Yawn* another bit of European wisdom...you guys had better start watching your hot air emissions levels, or it may put you above the Kyoto limits. Wh
28 Nik : Cwapilot, it sounds like YOU are the one taking a few comments here and there and use them to characterize an entire continent....
29 Nik : "Maybe because the situation is absurd??" Just to clarify: What I mean is that the situation this Grandmother found herself in was absurd. I think mos
30 Trident : Serves them right for buying "GI Joe". They should have been patriotic and bought "Action Man" (the UK equivalent).
31 Arsenal@LHR : Funny how that shit is coming from an americans mouth!
32 Post contains images Sunilgupta : cwapilot, take it easy man! I live in the US and have traveled a lot since 9/11 and I have to agree that security at airports has reached a level of a
33 Wingman : I too agree that the security situation is bizarre. But I also agree with CWA that it is offensive to see childish knee jerk reactions from people lik
34 Nik : Wingman, Fact is that no Europeans have made "anti-American" remarks in this thread - so the comments about Europe and the European media are offensiv
35 Post contains images Ryanair : Wingman: 1. Indian Airlines are a regional carrier, that would be in the region India's in. That region isn't, as you suggest, Europe..... 2. I should
36 Wingman : Nik, no offense intended or implied at Europe, Europeans or the local media. Not sure where you inferred that in my post. Simply pointing out that pri
37 B747-437B : I was referring to Air India (my mistake in saying Indian Airlines) out of the UK some 10-15 years ago, 230+ killed when a terrorist bomb made its way
38 Wingman : Christ Almighty I beg thee for forgiveness. I hereby submit myself for corporal punishment by the members of this forum for making a mistake. Jeez, to
39 737heavy : I agree it's a bit extreme but think about it, is this a positive result of security measures? They have set the rules and, as absured as it seems in
40 Nik : Wingman, maybe I shouldn't have addressed my post to you, but my point was that Cwa's remarks about Europe where just as offensive to me as the commen
41 Post contains images Sunilgupta : it is not inconceivable that 2-3 terrorists could easily grab hold of 2-3 toddlers on any given flight and threaten to cut their throats with the nail
42 Wingman : Just to add fire to the flame, I read an interesting post on PPRUNE today about a mother somewhere in the US, NY I believe, that was forced to down th
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