Sean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3541 times:
WN makes more than HP out of PHX.. ouch.
AA makes almost the same out of SFO then it does out of its mini-hub SJC
UA seems to dominate LAX, with 250M more revenue than AA
Average fares to HNL are pathetic
Worst Cities and thier cariers (by avg ticket price):
HNL AQ <= worst at $50
Best Cities and thier cariers (by avg ticket price)
JFK UA <= #1 @ $380
Top 10 lowest total revenue cities
Top 10 highest revenue cities
ATL DL <= highest at $2,560,448,150
Hass- YOU DA MAN! Cool figures. I could sit here all night an play with the numbers...
777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
At HNL you must factor in the massive number of cheap interisland flights and large crowd of airpass holders who commute daily and get the most for their money. While flights to the mainland and elsewhere may be inexpensive at times, the real anchor bringing that average down are the interisland runs, where nobody should be paying more than $150 per flight.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32777 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3485 times:
I have not have time to check out the figures, but thanks for the link. However, remember guys, revenue means nothing, profit means everything. Of course DL/ATL is going to have the highest revenue, it is the largest hub operation in the US! And if I am not mistaken, #2 in revenue, AA/DFW, is the 2nd largest hub operation in the US! And, someone correct me if I am wrong, but is UA's ORD hub (#4 in revenue) not the third largest hub operation in the US? Of course, CO's EWR hub as #3 makes perfect sense, yields at Newark are sensational. None the less, revenue figures do not determine just how profitable these operations are. That is not to say that Delta's Atlanta hub is not profitable, but using revenue figures is not an accurate way of comparing just how much money these hubs makes in the end of it all.
UA making more revenue than Delta out of JFK does not surprise me. UA has the Heathrow and Tokyo routes and more trans-cons. Those are huge moneymakers for them.
UA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3430 times:
Never said revenue was the most important thing.
Yeah, United "makes more sales" than Delta out of JFK... but it would also be shocking to see that United's operations are probably also more expensive even though United runs out of a much smaller set of gates, facilities, etc.
You are correct that UA@ORD is the 3rd largest US hub (RPMs as the standard measure of size)... but the 4th largest "sale maker".
Yep, just like with load factors, "huge sales" do not a money maker make.
SESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3401 times:
It seems that CO may carry almost as many passengers from EWR as AA does from DFW. Why are AA's numbers for passengers carried so low? UA's ORD hub also accommodated more passengers than AA @ DFW so far for the year.