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Monarch Seating Capacities (A300/DC10)  
User currently offlineDC10Tony From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

Why do the Monarch A300 and DC-10 both seat 361 pax.?

Granted, the DC-10 is only about 5' longer than the A300, but it's a wider aircraft, and if it's at 10-abreast, then it should seat more than the A300 which is 9-abreast, seeing how they're relatively the same length.

Anyone know the answer to this?

Thanks.

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User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

regardless... thats a lot of seats.
World is the only I can think of with worse having 410 in an MD-11.


User currently offlineNG737PSR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

I think the DC-10-30 that Monarch used to operate G-DMCA (last seen stored at Manchester) originally seated 352Y - someone at MON correct me if I'm wrong.

They were re-configured to Y361 in case an A300-600R had to be bailed out due to technical problems, so that they could carry all 361 pax that had been delayed.

Incidentally Monarch's DC-10-30 seated fewer than My Travel's current DC-10-10s/30s which have them stuffed full with the maximum allowable 3-4-3 configured Y380.


User currently onlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2601 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
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DC10Tony,
The reason for Monarch's A300 and DC-10 both seating 361 was down to the age of the aircraft. The A300-600R is more modern and makes better use of galley, storage and toilet space. Monarch obtained all their A300s new from Airbus, outfitting them with only front and rear galleys and toilets, with nothing but seats in between.

The older DC-10 makes less efficient use of space, and requires mid-cabin galleys and toilets to provide full service for a high-density layout, consequently the number of seats is limited to below the maximum 380, plus the G-DMCA was configured for long-haul use while the A300 is configured for short-haul services with a tighter seat pitch.

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As an aside G-DMCA is still at Manchester awaiting it's fate.

NG737PSR,
Only MyTravel's DC-10-10s seat 380, the sole DC-10-30 (G-BYDA) seats 356 as far as I'm aware...

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineDC10Tony From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Crosswind-

Thanks for the information.

Our flight info. sheets always lists a pax. count, and I always see G-BYDA with 360-363 pax. when it comes in.


User currently offlineKestrel From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2002, 93 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2586 times:


The MyTravel DC10-30 is currently fitted with 363 Y Class seats (which means it can easily carry 2 x A320 full loads if needed), during 1997/98 (when Premiair/Airtours first received the 10-30) it had a 347 config 19 C Class/328 Y Class.

All the DC10-10 fleet have 379 seats squeezed into them which is often a headache when flights are sold to 379 pax, and then operated on the DC10-30! The difference in seat pitch/recline between the two types is very noticeable, the DC10-30 has the most comfortable Y class of any aircraft in the MyTravel fleet.


User currently offlineSteady Eddie From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

The DC10 was originally fitted with 358 seats, that, at the time was a standard charter configuration for a DC10, sometime later it was discovered that by removing one of the toilets you could put an extra 3 seats in to give commonality with the A300's when they went tech etc, with 358 seats the 10 still had better legroom than the A300.


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