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SIA's Silk Air To Fly In Australia!  
User currently offlineVH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 841 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

This news clip is from the Ansett in WA website & I think is dated 14 Aug 02.

Singapore Airlines has tonight confirmed it is looking at becoming Australia`s third domestic airline. But the

company says its assessment is still in the early stages. Access to domestic terminal space remains the biggest barrier.
Singapore Airlines says it`s keeping its options open on whether it may become Australia`s third domestic carrier.Speculation is rife in the aviation industry that Singapore is best placed to be the new entrant in the market, filling some of the empty Ansett gateways.

PETER HARBISON, CENTRE FOR ASIA PACIFIC AVIATION: It has - depending on the reports - somewhere between $2-4 billion in cash reserves effectively. It would come into the Australian market, I would presume with some form of Australian investor as well - in other words, as not entirely in its own right.

Singapore Airlines has confirmed to SBS World News it`s in the early stages of assessing the proposition. But it says a fundamental barrier is access to domestic terminals, although a team of contract experts has been in Australia talking to airport owners.The company has noted yesterday`s comments by ACCC Chairman Professor Allan Fels that he doesn`t want the Sydney terminal carved up only between Qantas and Virgin.

The Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation believes it may be just a matter of months before Singapore flies into the Australian domestic market. PETER HARBISON: There is so much compelling financial value in doing it that I just cannot see how anybody would not see just how obvious it is that they need to be here. 15% of Australia`s local air traffic comes off the back of international services.

KEVIN O`CONNOR, DEUTSCHE BANK: So you`ve got Singapore Airlines and other carriers saying "Hey, we are feeding profitable business to Qantas. "Is there enough of that to give us the core - the base - "to start up a small domestic airline in Australia?"
Now, whether or not that in its own right will work, it`s still not obvious it would.


Now I have also heard that Silk Air will be flying in Australia from December/January this/next year? They have contracted a new company called 'IAM' ( Integrated Airline Maintenance) in Melbourne to provide engineering staff, as well as ongoing maintenance support for the grounded Ansett aircraft. I have spoken to people who have had interviews with this company & they say that IAM are very tight lipped about what going to happen!

If SQ can organise enough gate space at Mel, Syd & Bne airports then I wouldn't be surprised to see Silk Air A320's flying east coast routes by year end or early next year!

Cheers - BZF


Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

Very interesting news, does anyone know if Singapore_Air is on holiday  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

The name "Silk Air' doesnt really suit Australia, but then again it's better than nothing..

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4053 times:

...and Virgin Blue does  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Very odd - that is news clip is now a week old, and I have heard absolutely nothing about it in the news media here, anywhere. Wait, the news clip doesn't mention anything about Silk Air, does it? I take it then, VH-BZF, that the Silk Air bit is from your own sources?

It would be interesting to see what would happen should Silk Air fly in australia. In the weeks after the AN collapse, the though of Silk Air doing domestic Australian routes was one of the first to come to my mind. However, remember they are not a Star Alliance airline (which is, after all, what this is pretty much about - a Star Alliance feeder in Australia). I wonder if this means that Silk Air will become a Star member, maybe just Silk Air Australia, or maybe it will simply be a Singapore Air (and it's partners) partner, and not a Star Airline.

I look forward to hearing more about this as it develops

V/F



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User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

As what Hkgspotter1 said, it is interesting and I will be very pleased if Singapore Airlines creates another Australia's domestic carrier or uses Silk Air to fly in Australia!

Probably, I will be one of first supporters to them! Actually, that's for sure!


User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

I am looking foward to see an Ansett replacement, but I find it a bit hard to see Silk Air doing domestic in Australia.

If this proposed airline is going to be establised I hope they call the airline a name that has something to do with Australia, such as "Air Australia" etc....



User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

May be Australian Silk?

Singapore_Air is preparing for school now!  Big grin


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3939 times:

Air Australia  Smile

That was one of the first Virtual Australian Airlines out there  Smile

I don't think we'll have that.

Can't wait for some action, instead of constant hot air  Smile Lets turn that hot air into jetblast!

Cheers,

Justin


User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

Just confirmed that SilkAir will fly to Hyderabad from October. Will ask about SilkAir in Australia.

9V-SVA



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User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

I think this isn't news, just a regurgitation of the reports from several weeks ago when SQ admitted they were talking about airport access but were still some time off making a decision. I don't believe SQ or Harbison have made any comment since those initial reports.

As far as names are concerned I understand Pacific Star and Australian Star were being considered though until SQ make their mind up one way or another choosing a name is pretty unimportant.

Rumours that BA may again be interested in selling their QF stake may mean SQ could ditch the idea of starting their own carrier and simply buy out the BA stake in QF.



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User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

Should BA ditch QF, Oneworld would be useless without Qantas..

User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3907 times:

Just because BA doesnt own QF doesnt mean QF will leave, QF and BA have some sort of profitsharing deal on the Kangaroo flts. QF have just signed some co-operation ageement with AA as well so i cant see QF leaving OW in a hurry. but then again... with Dixon in the cockpit you never know Big grin

Dixon = New Cheong



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User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Silk Air doesnt even fly to australia does it? i know the NT govt is PLEADING with SQ/ML (is it ML or MI) to return to DRW.

btw. Qantas now have the Golden Wing in DRW, all done up in QFclub colours.



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3889 times:

This was posted before, hence I thought SBS News was getting over-confident writing an article like this twice.

Singapore Airlines said that it didn't really want to be associated with a low-cost/quality airline like Virgin Blue. But SilkAir don't really offer PTVs in all classes anyway do they?

Many such reports have come out, and although this one is the latest, I'll believe it when I see it (or maybe some weeks before it).

But a very interesting article



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User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

QF probably will not leave Oneworld even if BA sold it's stake in Qantas, however if SQ bought a stake in QF, I can't see SQ leaving Star Alliance for Oneworld, therefore QF will do the most obvious and join Star Alliance.

User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

I have been told that SilkAir has no plans to operate domestic flights in Australia.

As for SIN-Australia services, a couple of cities in Oz have approached them about flights but no decision made as yet.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3754 times:

Silkair would probably fly to leisure destinations like Cairns and Broome, if it were to start flying to Australia. In fact, SQ used to operate to Cairns not too long ago but dropped it (God knows why... low pax?). But that defeats the airline's "regional" indentity, doesn't it? Especially if the flight to Cairns if about 6hrs away...


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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

Whatever happens, SilkAir will not use it's planes, I'm nearly 100% sure of that.

SilkAir, a subsidiary of Singapore Airlines Group, announced some weeks ago that they aim to be Asia's largest regional airline. At the moment, they are expanding rapidly and seem to have too few planes to cope with that expansion, let alone run little nice feeder routes for Singapore Airlines in Australia.



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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

1)week old gossip
2) qantas wont allow singapore air to buy a stake in it, one Ba wouldnt sell to singapore air, two it would raise competition concerns of having qantas-singapore air-air new zealand in such a close relationship. Frankly i dont understand the auroa around singapore and i dont understand why people on airliners keep on coming up with dreams with singapore airlines and australia.



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User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Well the latest rumours are that Qantas is considering establishing a low cost Australian domestic airline..

User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

Supprise Supprise  Big thumbs up

Qantas pleeeeaaaseeee bring back the flying cockys



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

Frankly i dont understand the auroa around singapore and i dont understand why people on airliners keep on coming up with dreams with singapore airlines and australia

Go Canada,

you need to understand that SQ, being the most profitable airline on earth, has always been very interested in the vast potential of the Aussie market. many reasons...eg: the profitable Kangaroo route, and the amount of Singaporeans flying to/from Australia (heaps of holiday makers and students). Hence, investing in Australia becomes the next natural step for the airline.

With the failure of Ansett, Star Alliance now has a void when domestic Australia is concerned. Of course everyone is looking to SQ as the next possible solution to that problem, since they have always expressed interest in Australia.

It is not surprising that this "Silkair" rumour began because simply put, SQ is the only airline in the immediate region that has the ability do start an airline in Australia if the proper rights were given. Garuda has just returned to profitability, MAS is in the red, so is Thai. So SQ is the obvious choice, don't you think?

With the failure of Ansett and the dismal service standards of QF, the Australians might be clamouring for something new. That came in the form of Virgin Blue. But Virgin Blue remains a low-fare carrier, hence a full fledged airline option is only QF. There is a need for another airline... but who will do it?

There you go... but a clash of cultures might happen with the Aussie and Singapore mentality - don't really mix well judging from the past threads in this forum.



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User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Dont forget EK though.


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User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Well said Ryanair........

25 Marara : Yes but the service is very inconsistant. You can have great crews on the flight up and skybags on the way back. btw has the perry box been given the
26 QANTASpower : Marara, No the box is staying. However more "goodies" are to be found within these days. QANTASpower
27 Post contains images United Airline : According to Richard Branson, DJ plans to start service between HKG and SYD with a B 747-400. Also, DJ 'MIGHT' go full service. Anyway, Branson's a lo
28 Aerorobnz : Imagine a DJ 744 livery......that's be sweet
29 Post contains images VirginFlyer : Oh goodness here we go again! V/F
30 Go Canada! : qantas already has austrialian airlines, it would make sense to expand it to domestic routes. What people are forgetting is that a well-established ai
31 Ryanair!!! : Go Canada, coming from UK, I am surprised that you seem so taken aback by the relationship of Singapore aviation in the Aussie scene. I was mislead by
32 Go Canada! : what i am saying is ryanair is that there are some people who havent got over ansett and are pinning their hopes on star alliance carrier to destroy q
33 TAA_Airbus : Prepare for total domination-domination-domination!!!!!!! Yes, well every airline and rich business men have aspirations to take over the world. This
34 United Airline : VirginFlyer, As I said, Branson is a LOT OF TALKs. But he definitely stated that when he was in Australia last time. Remember he said that VS might or
35 Travel : Even if SQ establish an airline in Australia, I cant see this airline destroying Qantas. In no way does this thread mention that Qantas should be crus
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