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User currently offlineAMSMAN From Ireland, joined Jan 2002, 1016 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1426 times:

Hi all,

Can anyone give me some information on all or any of the accidents that have happened at AMS.

I only found out yesterday that a CI747 clipped a NWDC-10's tail while taxing by once and also that another CI747 applied to much "gas" and nearly rammed the terminal!

Also something about a ground worker becoming mangled by the prop of a Fokker 50 (or 70) just before push back!

Has anyone got some more info on these or any more?

Thanks
AMS


Aer Lingus, Proud to be Irish.
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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 1395 times:

The first 2 can hardly be called accidents...
Noone was hurt (maybe some bruises from hard braking but no more).

I've heard nothing of a technician being killed or seriously wounded by a propellor. Something like that would have made the TV news and newspapers, so if it happened it must have been a long time ago.

Small things like aircraft hitting each other on the taxiway can easily happen on an overcrowded airport, especially when pilots are inexperienced, reckless or unfamiliar with the airport.
Such things happen once in a while at every airport in the world, and usually the passengers don't experience anything but a delay while repairs are made ("ladies and gentlemen, we have been ordered by the tower to return to the gate. Please disembark, a new departure time will be announced").



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User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

KLM Citihopper Saab 340 and also Transavia 757 on landing with heavy cross winds. I don't know the dates exactly. I think in the Transavia incident no one was hurt.

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Transavia 757 skidded off the runway 19R on a night landing in heavy crosswind on December 24, 1999.
Noone was hurt, damage to the aircraft was repaired and the aircraft put back into service.

Board of investigation found that a new law prohibiting landings at the most favourable runway because of noise restrictions (the maximum number of night landings on the runway permitted under that law for the year had been reached some time earlier) was a danger to navigation and recommended the law be changed.



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8195 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

LY 74F, hit apartment buildings after take-off, carrying general cargo plus ammunition and ingredients for Sarin gas. Many killed at the time plus a cancer cluster in the area since.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Here are some pictures of an El-Al B747-200F that ran out of the runway on Feb 8th 1999.

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Of course there was the tragic accident of an El-Al B747-200F, 4X-AXC, that crashed near the airport on Oct 4th 1992.





Long live the B747
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1215 times:

yes, AXC was AFAIK the last fatality at AMS directly related to flight ops (rather than possible accidents and things like heart attacks).

Rather a good record I'd say, given the number of aircraft operating here every day.



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8195 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

I'm sure there has been another accident. I suppose you make a case re the Tenerife collision since one of the 747s originated there.

Some airports are lucky (Heathrow has only dispatched two flights in the last few decades that have been lost, the Pan Am 747 that crashed in Scotland and the BMI 737 that crashed in the Midlands), whereas others are spectacularly unlucky (JFK: Swiss MD11 off Canadian coast, TWA 800 exploding off Long Island, Egyptair 767 crashing in the same spot due to the actions of the co-pilot, Air France Concorde in Paris en route to JFK...and that's just in the last 6 years).

What did the Dutch ever do to El Al Cargo to deserve such treatment?



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8195 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

Oh yeah, didn't TMA of Lebanon have an excursion off the runway with one of their lovely green 707s a few years back?


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineRA-85154 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

Well, to call Tenerife an AMS incident... would go a little too far I think. There have been incidents however at AMs, with aircraft losing pieces like engine cowlings around the airport (I believe it was a NW DC-10), and a fire aboard a KLM 763. The EL AL crash involving 747-258F 4X-AXG (not "C") was the most serious accident to occur around Schiphol, and on Dutch soil...:|

regards

Martijn


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5052 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

Wasn't there a KLM Cityhopper Saab 340B that crashed at Schiphol in the early 90s? I'm pretty sure...

User currently offlineAMSMAN From Ireland, joined Jan 2002, 1016 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1080 times:

Jtwentig,

I think the issue of the prop and the guy only occurred about a year and a half ago...a guy I work with was working at Schiphol at the time!

Hmmm....

Thanks Guys
John



Aer Lingus, Proud to be Irish.
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

The Saab 340 accident was on April 4, 1994 and killing 3 people very near to the main spotting area near the runway. It occured exactly 1,5 year after the 'Bijlmer-disaster' (Bijlmer is the residential area where 4X-AXG crashed). Unfortunately, Amsterdam had, like JFK, some more related incidents. The Faro DC-10 crash (21 dec. 1992) started from Amsterdam, while the DC-3 pleasureflight (crashed 25 sept. 1996) was on its way back to Amsterdam. Also some freighters which crashed in Africa came from Amsterdam.
Cedarjet> To add to your already scary JFK list, the A-300 post take off crash of American, early november 2001.



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User currently offlineViporBuddy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1053 times:

I remember well this Fokker 100 maingear collapse

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User currently offlineAMSMAN From Ireland, joined Jan 2002, 1016 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

Geezz quite a lot then!!

AMS



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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 958 times:

Jwenting,

the story about the guy who got in the way of a F-50 prop is very true!
It happened in June-July (?) last year.
A lot of people were allowed to go home that, due to what had happened to there colleague.



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineRA-85154 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 937 times:

In 1986, a British tri-engined turboprop, a Britten-Norman-Trislander I believe, crashed at takeoff from Schiphol, killing the pilot. I read it in a aviation yearbook years ago. I can't really find some details but I'll let you know a.s.a.p Big thumbs up

Greetz
Martijn


User currently offlineRA-85154 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 940 times:


Here it is  Big thumbs up


Accident description
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Date: 14 SEP 1986
Time: 03.10
Type: Pilatus Britten Norman BN-2A Trislander Mk.III-2
Operator: Kondair
Registration: G-BDTP
C/n: 1028
Year built: 1976
Total airframe hrs: 7100 hours
Engines: 3 Lycoming O-540-E4C5
Crew: 1 fatalities / 1 on board
Passengers: 0 fatalities / 0 on board
Total: 1 fatalities / 1 on board
Location: 4,6km from Amsterdam-Schiphol (Netherlands)
Phase: Final Approach
Nature: Freight
Departure airport: London-Stansted Airport (STN)
Destination airport: Amsterdam-Schiphol Airport (AMS)
Flightnumber: 201
Remarks:
Schiphol Tower cleared the flight for a runway 06 ILS approach shortly after 02.53h. The aircraft was too high on the glide slope however and initiated a go-around at 02.59h. The pilot decided to carry out a runway 19R approach and climbed to 2000ft before turning to base. At 03.06 the aircraft aligned with the centreline, 6nm from the threshold. At 4nm short of the runway the aircraft was below the glide slope, with a speed of around 80kts. At 03.09 (ca 3nm short, at 750ft altitude) the aircraft suddenly turned right and descended fast. At 550ft altitude the aircraft turned left and kept descending until it struck the ground and caught fire. It was determined that a windshear condition existed at around 750ft altitude on the runway 19R approach path, causing a shift in direction of the wind from 210deg to 100deg. The aircraft had logged around 7100 flying hours. PROBABLE CAUSE: The inexperienced pilot overcorrected a movement of the aircraft, caused by windshear and didn't regain control when the aircraft entered a spiral dive as a result of the over correction.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/1986/860914-0.htm





User currently offlineRA-85154 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 937 times:

I can remember also another incident, in which the Czech presidential aircraft, a Tu-154M I believe, hit a Schiphol-East hangar with its outer wing... This happened in the beginning of the 90ies but I can recall seeing the picture of a damaged wing in the newspaper. The aircraft was repaired AFAIK.
 Big thumbs up
Martijn


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