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New Name For Newark--->Liberty Intl  
User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3211 times:

Greetings:

It was just reported on NBC that Newark Intl's name will be changed to Liberty Intl in memory of 9/11. The official vote on the name change will take place this September by the Port Authority and they said they would approve it. So by the end of September you'll be flying into Liberty Intl.

Regards
Tom

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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

I heard about it on the radio news this afternoon. I'm in favor of it, not only because of remembering 9/11, but also with the Statue of Liberty close by. There's something about the word "liberty" that denotes freedom, democracy, etc. I daresay, might they change the 3-letter identifier as well (is LIB available?, or something similar).

Tom in NO (at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

LIB is already in use for the Liberty VORTAC, down in North Carolina. FAA could always rename the VORTAC and issue a new identifier for it, and re-issue LIB for EWR, but that might take some time and political pushing.

They might just change the name of the airport, and not the identifier. New Orleans is a good example (and the latest I can recall), since they changed the name honor Louie Armstrong but kept the MSY identifier.


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

lol that sounds like something out of GTA hahaha Big grin.

Are they going to rename the whole of Newark, Liberty too?

Hehe  Smokin cool


User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Liberty City, NJ, that would be perfect and Liberty City Intl. Airport, lol  Laugh out loud

(From the game Grand Theft Auto 3 for those who don't know)


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

LIB is already in use for the Liberty VORTAC, down in North Carolina

Actually, IATA has assigned LIB to Limbunya, NT in Australia.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

As Tom mentioned there's already a Liberty State park in Jersey City and Liberty Island, I would have prefered Todd Beamer Intenational but that might have left the other family members of flight 93 feeling left out.

The two other commercial Port Authority airports are named after President John F. Kennedy, and former Mayor Laguardia.

I think this is a great way to honor the Port Authority workers killed and the brave souls who prevented flight 93 from becoming a weapon of mass destruction.




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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

It sounds very ....... Patriotic.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

Hmmm.....I think it is a beautiful idea, but it is also a constant reminder that one of the hijacked airliners took off from Newark. I think it will probably go through anyway....I prefer the name Patriot Field or something like Newark-Patriot's Field International Airport, or something to that effect, but it is a very moving gesture. They don't need to change the code from EWR to something else....they didn't change IAH to BUS after it became Bush-Intercontinental Airport, did they?

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5510 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

I hope it won't be like, "We'll be making our descent into Liberty Intl' in 10 min". I like, "We'll be landing in Newark Intl' in 5 min!" better!

Continental


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

I would have prefered Todd Beamer Intenational

You wanna name an airport after a guy whose only connection with aviation was that he died in a plane crash? Get real....


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

So New York-Newark International Airport will renamed as New York Liberty International Airport?

User currently offlineFlygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Hey am for it.........better than the City of San Jose renaming SJC for Norm Minetta!



User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

I don't associate the most congested airport in the US, complete with SOP 50 minute taxiways queues (nor for that matter the events of 11/9/01) with liberty.


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User currently offlineTzMSP From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 137 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

Yeah, IAH remained the same... and some of us native Texans still call it "Houston Intercont" (Houston Intercontinental) because we could really careless about Bush (daddy or son.)

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy tzMSP


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

that is pretty stupid,always trying to rename things.
leave it as EWR and NEWARK INTERNATIONAL.
next thing you know they'll rename the staue of liberty,empire state building,yankee stadium, man let it go. it is just a constent reminder the day the world stood still.

move on,keep livin and stop renameing everything to honor people.

ual 777 contrail


User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Greetings:

I never thought of "Todd Beamer International" it would be a fitting honor but an upsetting memory. I like Liberty Intl, it really is a perfect fit with the Stature of Liberty just few miles away. 80 years ago people came to America by ship and Lady Liberty was there to greet them. Today they fly and will be greeted at Liberty Intl. The name works on a number of levels, I give it a thumbs up  Big thumbs up

Regards
Tom


User currently offlineAA 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 807 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2759 times:
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Even if they rename it people would still call it Newark

AA 777
Matt



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User currently offlineJSheldon From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

I agree with UAL777contrail...
Let it go. Yes it was a horrible tragedy (and living less than 30 miles north of NYC, and knowing some who passed on, I know how bad it really was). But renaming Newark would just be a constant reminder... we need to always remember it in our hearts, but not be dragged down constantly and depressed by hearing it over and over again. Just let things be. Thats my opinion anyway.


User currently offlineFrequentflier From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

It's nice that people are thinking of paying tribute to our nation, but don't you think that Liberty Intl' is an awkward name for an airport? I could see naming an airport after a person (LaGuardia (NY Mayor), Kennedy (President)), so how about Rudy Giuliani/Newark Intl'. I know that he was the NEW YORK mayor, but Newark is really one of NYC's 3 airports.

It's a really nice gesture, though.


User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

I agree with Frequentflier,
The name Newark Airport is very distinctive. You instantly know where it is...but when you say "I'm flying into Hobby", you really can't tell. Or Mineta, or Lindbergh, or Will Rogers, or Midway even. It's just easier leaving things nameless. Besides, if anyone wants to remember September 11 through a memorial, there's much better ways of doing it than naming an airport "Liberty International."

Nick


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5632 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

I don't agree with the renaming. "Newark International Airport" has been its name for a long time and should remain. There are other things that can be renamed.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Like I said I like the Todd Beamer name for the airport because he is known as one of the folks who was part of the revolt against the hijakers, also he's (was) a salesperson for Oracle who traveled quite frequently through Newark and is (was) a long time New Jersey resident.

I think his name would represent a heroic symbol as well as an ordinary traveler just going on a business trip.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

It's still a dump.  Smile


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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6279 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

What a stupid name. I cannot think of any worse. Well, maybe one or two.

I will always use the following: Orange County, Intercontinental and National.



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
25 Ironminds : I'm against, simply because of convention (also I understand the pols in Newark are kinda pissed). How about we wait until we beat the sand-nazis and
26 Post contains images ILOVEA340 : lol what a joke. Do they actualy expect people to say... Yeah I flew in a CO 762 from ZRH-SFO via Liberty international. LMAO
27 Post contains images Backfire : Can't the Americans-in-power think up a more original name than those old cliches "Liberty" and "Patriot" and "Freedom" and "Independence" and... IMHO
28 DragonRapide : What is it with so many wanting to name an airport after a person (or in this case renamen it to remember an event)??? 9/11 was one of the worst days
29 Post contains images SafetyDude : As a native New Yorker, I think that is the BEST idea that has come out of 9/11 memorial plans (next to the 13 foot wall with all the victims names).
30 I LOVE EWR : I really think the name change would be a good idea. I think the name should be "Newark New Jersey Liberty International Airport."
31 Richardw : They could re name laguardia 'Giuliani'
32 Braniff727 : Liberty is what the US is based on. It's why we exist. I'm sorry that the rest of the world has no pride in their country. This has nothing to do with
33 Go Canada! : why dont they call it yankee doddle dandy or Dubya airport and be done with it?
34 Voodoo : Is it April 1st already?
35 Frequentflier : Richardw: LaGuardia is already named for a mayor. I really think that the name "Liberty" would be used better in the context that ILOVEEWR brought up-
36 ATL2CDG : This yet another example of how Bush-inspired 'idiot's patriotism' is going to disrupt the very fabric of our civil (I use the word loosely) society.
37 TWFirst : I disagree with renaming the airport. Every time a terrorist attack happens, are we going to rename a major institution/piece of infrastructure?? Does
38 TWFirst : Was posting while you were posting ATL2CDG... just wanted to say I agree with you. All of a sudden, it seems that if one dare criticizes anything Bush
39 DIA : ATL2CDG: You said, "People across the nation have begun to wear flag lapel pins and other symbols of patriotism as if though it makes them a better pe
40 JFKspotter : The point in starting this thread was simply to inform you people that Newark's name will most likely be changed to Liberty Int'l Airport. Somehow, at
41 ATL2CDG : While I usually do not respond to people who feel the need to exact superiority over me, I am quite taken with the entire subject of 9/11 and its effe
42 Post contains links and images I LOVE EWR : One more thing, when you board a flight say in SAN for a flight to Newark, I doubt it will say Liberty International. When I board a flight to go back
43 Post contains links STT757 : The Mayor of Newark prefers *Newark Liberty International* and so do I,
44 Post contains images CPH-R : Kinda funny.. I'll be flying to Newark/Liberty/Dubya/whatever in October, and I'm starting to wonder how many times our reservation will change name
45 Post contains images EGGD : To be honest, I thought Newark was a pretty good name anyway. oh well . La Guardia sounds cool too
46 GARUDAROD : Gee, and I thought this was an Aviation related forum. I didnt know it had changed into a Poly-sci class. Good, bad, or indifferent, it shows that pe
47 TWFirst : Two important bits of info (imo) from STT757's link: "No matter what the full name becomes, Jim Peters, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administr
48 Flyboy36y : About remaming the VORTAC, you would not have to bevause LIB would be an IATA cose. THe FAA code could be KLIB, but I think that is taken. The officia
49 Cedarjet : ATL2CDG you are extraordinary. If all Americans thought the way you do 9/11 wouldn't have happened in the first place. You are a voice of reason whisp
50 AerLingus : We may as well call it "We think we're better than the rest of you". Actually, no where in the definition of liberty is it mentioned that the word con
51 VirginLover : Where do you get "We think we're better than you" out of "Liberty"? If we called it "Independence 1776" airport, I could understand why you get pissed
52 Bobcat : Does anyone realize the cost involved in changing the name to Liberty? I'm sure there are other ways of using the money for meaningful purposes. My br
53 Flyboy36y : Get Over it Move On. Don't forget 9/11. But stop with the mushe memorial crap. I'm all for productive memorials, but this is stupid and in 15 years mo
54 Fanofjets : I agree with ATL2CDG, TWFirst, and Cedarjet. I love America but am, too, troubled with much of the blind (and sometimes chauvanistic) symbolism that p
55 Boeing4ever : VirginLover, how true! I agree with you one hundred percent! As for those others, namely Cedarjet, and ATL2CDG, you've entered my red zone. ATL...you
56 Triley1057 : Well said ATL2CDG. I completely agree with you and I'm putting you on my respected users list.
57 SEVEN_FIFTY7 : I agree with ATL2CDG, TWFirst, and Cedarjet. I love America but am, too, troubled with much of the blind (and sometimes chauvanistic) symbolism that p
58 Frequentflier : With the loss of the name "Newark Intl' Airport," the city of Newark loses the only connection most people really have to it. Think about it-without t
59 OA412 : Not only do you sound bitter, you also sound like you never took any political science courses, or studied these topics you discuss to any rational de
60 Reggaebird : I would like the name to be more dramatic and for the 3 and 4-letter codes to match. Therefore, I would like to suggest: LIBERTY MEMORIAL WORLDPORT -
61 TWFirst : Somebody mentioned above that this name change is fitting because one of the planes took off from Newark... seems to me if that's the case, then the n
62 CPH-R : About changing the name to remember the tragedy: Shouldn't they also change the name of one of the Washington airports then? You guys _do_ remember th
63 Toda,Reisinger : Well, there are worst name changes... Zurich, which was called Zurich Airport or Zurich-Kloten (the name of the little town where it is located) got a
64 Post contains links STT757 : New Jersey residents say no, and Governors Pataki and McGreevey are "open" to suggestions. http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-3/103009
65 Alpha 1 : ATL2CDG you are extraordinary. If all Americans thought the way you do 9/11 wouldn't have happened in the first place. You are a voice of reason whisp
66 Srbmod : Honestly, I don't think of Newark when I heard the word "liberty". The only city that springs to mind is Philadelphia, so why not rename the airport i
67 Beefmoney : IMHO, I love the new name. I dont appreciate it when people go around saying, in effect, "I hate it when people show pride in our country and what it
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